Star Wars is just not meant to be deep


I’ve come to the conclusion that Star Wars is simply not designed to be more than simple adventure films.

I think that TLJ is a great movie. Probably the best written Star Wars movie. Unfortunately, that is not what people want.

They want simple adventure stories like Rogue One and Solo (I like both movies, btw).

So, maybe it is best if they stick to simple adventure stories and forget these deep stories. We can have less fan infighting that way.

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The problem for those are the political pretensions, of being a social justice morality play. Star Wars as a vehicle cannot handle it. We don't need to go to a galaxy far far away to hear an allegory for the holocaust. Those things are too earthly and mundane. There is a good thread on one of the Star Wars movies about how the new ones feature swearing and champagne and other components that take us out of the atmosphere. This is very thoughtless writing in my opinion.

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or at the very least a damn side more nuance and subtlety in introducing said social and political themes. I don't know, maybe not making unnecessarily divisive and controversial "pansexual" comments on twitter feeds while the film is still in theaters might be a good idea. All Jon Kasdan really succeeded in doing was shining a white hot spotlight onto a part of Solo: A Star Wars Story which was unsubtle and divisive to begin with. I don't recall many people coming out of Star Wars, Empire and Jedi saying "Gee, I really enjoyed/hated those allegorical references to Richard Nixon and Vietnam". In fact, if Lucas hadn't blurted that stuff out in an interview some years later I doubt many people would ever have made that connection. I have no doubt that stuff was always there, but it was presented in such a way that didn't feel like ham-fisted propaganda or manipulation. In fact, they were barely noticed at all. Most people just saw the Empire as a Nazi reference (World War II not being too controversial). If any one thinks movies weren't very political in 1977 they are very mistaken. In fact, Star Wars was seen as uncharacteristically non-political for it's time. To whatever extent Star Wars was perceived as political was ironically due to it's seeming LACK of overt political content in favor of pure, old-fashioned entertainment. It would seem there was more on Lucas' mind then met the eye, however. Believe me, the conclusion of the Vietnam War (1975) and pardon of Nixon (1974) were still fairly contentious and polarizing topics in 1977 and had Lucas said those things at the time Star Wars might have gotten a very different reception. In the prequels, the George Bush 9/11 references were a bit more on the nose, but still not strident enough to cause too much controversy...people mostly disliked those for other reasons outside of politics (which were definitely there). Perhaps this says something about the lack of subtlety in more recent times or greater awareness by modern (and much more polarized) audiences of subtext in films, I don't know.

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wow, just wow, only the most shallow will find TLJ deep....or well written (maybe compared to TFA, but still) . And I find your lack of SW knowledge disturbing: "Simple adventure stories"?

Every heard about Star Wars movies in which democracy slowly dies with thunderous applause, dictators rise and have all good guys killed at the end, or corrupted to destroy those they had to protect. No?

Ever heard of that movie where the protagonist fails all the time and breaks off his spiritual training to get maimed and scarred, and other protaginist fall in a death like comas...the one Last Jedi ripped off by adding several plot holes & redundancies? No...?

Ever heard the legend of DarthBoricanator the Unwise? No?

Maybe we have less "fan infighting" if you thought your rants through next time? Yes?

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