Why would Luke be hesitant to help his sister? - Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (2017) Discussion

[–] kuku (3510) 7 years ago

He's a white male. For a while, during the original trilogy, he tried to look like a good boy. But at then end, he couldn't help it: he's a evil nazi psychopath. White males can't help it :(

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[–] janelsenor (2044) 7 years ago

Truth

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[–] darkpast (8755) 7 years ago

why ruin his character, if they were going to kill him off, anyway?

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[–] kuku (3510) 7 years ago

They didn't ruined the character. They completed his character arc, proving that NO white male can be trusted, because even the ones that seem legit become evil or crazy at the end. All white males are evil psychopaths and morally inferior, only racist people dare to deny it. ^^

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[–] Vechtersbaas (550) 7 years ago

I want to laugh at you, for being so great and imitating the crazy left feminazies, but I believe you are actually right.
Its horrible..

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[–] kuku (3510) 7 years ago

I think that, someway, I'm not far from the truth.

Of course, I don't think that they did it on purpose... probably it just came out, they felt it was the right evolution for the character :(

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[–] Vechtersbaas (550) 7 years ago

Well when all the Story Group is concerned about diversity and women, its not far fetched to think they would on purpose de-masculine the male heroes. They did it with all the characters. What white male character is truly good in these new films? non. And what female hero is truly good? Almost all of them. Just look at Rey. Not a single character flaw. She saw her father-figure Han Solo get murdered right in front of her. No anger, no revenge, nothing. Pure good. She got told the family she waited for her entire life are dead and meant nothing. No anger, nothing. She has no ability to be bad or even feel bad. She is all good, all time. Such great writing! Anakin went to the Dark side in a flash because of his feelings, but he is a weak male, this won't happen to Rey. Rey is all powerfull, even besting Luke and Kylo. She can never be tempted!
Also. Luke saw such darkness in Kylo that he wanted to kill him in his sleep. Not Rey. No, Rey sees the good in him, even going as far as to go to him in person en risk her life. While Luke is a baby who wanted to murder him like a coward, failed and then f*cked off to an island to hide and die. OH SUCH HERO

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[–] Rorikon (17940) 7 years ago

By that logic, Finn is a gangbanging thug who stole shit and ran away at the sight of the First Order sirens. The whites gave him a job application which he hesitantly accepted. Before long, his didn't do nuffin genetics kicked in and immediately stole and resisted when caught. Now looks for handouts from the Resistance. He also beats women (Phasma) and will probably leave Rey once he rapes her or implants his ewok seed in her.

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[–] pzogel (187) 7 years ago

Can't remember Luke being in the movie. There was one guy who somewhat looked like him, but he was apparently a completely different person.

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[–] ksi (49) 7 years ago

I didn't even think about this before but you are right, in the past movies even before he knew she was his sister he went through an entire empire army to save her, later when they are revealed to be siblings he left a solid jedi training and went to scum infested caves to rescue her against all odds.

But now, screw her, I am in emo mode and I don't care about anything else in the world because I ALMOST thought of murdering my nephew, there is NO way of going back from that, even though I converted the most evil sith lord in history (Vader) into a good old man and never lost faith in him, I have no salvation and nobody deserves to see me or be helped by me ever again.

The movie sucks, it is better to let it die and move forward to other franchises (just like the movie itself says it over and over), it is hard to accept it but it might be like mourning an old friend that had a terrible and unavoidable accident or an incurable disease out of nowhere and you where unable to do anything.

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[–] lordbishop34 (1442) 7 years ago

I ALMOST thought of murdering my nephew, there is NO way of going back from that, even though I converted the most evil sith lord in history (Vader) into a good old man and never lost faith in him, I have no salvation and nobody deserves to see me or be helped by me ever again.

This right here, even before suffering the loss of the temple, he was considering doing something that was entirely out of character for Luke. He risked his life to save his father who had done horrible things, but his nephew who had not yet turned fully he feels the best thing here was to snuff him out while he was sleeping....

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[–] kuku (3510) 7 years ago

This early January I'm rewatching an old TV series from 2002 called "Dead Like Me" (wonderful one, by the way). Characters are highly imperfect, even freaks, and however you can feel the love the writers place in each character, even the weirdest and socially awkward ones.

I don't see that love writers used to have for their characters anymore. Not at least in the Hollywood movies. It's like writers don't see nowadays the characters as human beings, but as ideological plot devices.

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[–] pzogel (187) 7 years ago

That is the point most apologists of TLJ are missing. They argue that Luke acting out of character is warranted considering that he made that big mistake. Him making that mistake (trying to kill his own nephew), however, is already completely out of character and supported by nothing in turn.

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