Leia was a Mary Sue in a New Hope

true, if people didn't follow the label with paragraphs of the reason why they think Rey was a Mary Sue I would think it was lazy as well.

You on the other hand simple stated it, and gave no reason why she may have been.

Yeah you're the one using the "Mary Sue" label as an excuse to ignore the arguments about how badly written Rey is.

Nobody is "afraid of strong women." Rey is a badly written character, that's it.

They're all just parroting one of the biggest douchebag misogynists in Hollywood, Max Landis, who popularized that term against Rey with his Twitter feed and kicked it all off (Max has actually said he regrets it, too, and deserves scrutiny -- He said this in October 2017 and I posted about him on the Force Awakens board, I can post the links here if you want).

Oh and Max is also an accused sexual predator, with many women backing up the accusations.

When you look at the "Rey is a Mary Sue" fad in that overall context, it makes all too much sense.

Get some sleep you drunken fool.

Leia was a Mary Sue in a New Hope

Absolutely. Everybody knows that Leia mastered the Force in the first movie, no training required. She was even a better pilot than Luke, taught Chewbacca how to fix the Falcon and in her spare time gave some lessons to Han about smuggling. Not to say C3P-O used to call her asking for help every time he had problems to translate some language :)

Evidence provided to back up your theory = none.

In a New Hope Leia was:
- Already a princess and an accomplished leader.
- Already a leader of the rebel alliance.
- Already battle hardened.
- Already trained.

So Leia just acted like who she was. She didn't use the force or do things out of character. She never single handedly saved the day, and only barely escaped death with Luke's help. And despite her strengths, she still needed to be rescued.

Contrast this with Rey - a nobody from nowhere with no training who becomes the most powerful Jedi in history in the span of a few weeks of "time" in the story. Over two movies Rey has never been hurt and never been in real danger and never needed help from anyone. That's a "Mary Sue."

The irony is that the Rey character is the one that portrays women in a worse light. She is not a real hero that girls can look up to, she's a fake a stereotype.

If you can answer this riddle then I will never ever call Rey a Mary Sue again.

How did Rey know how to fly the Millenium Falcon?

World of diference. yea she upstaged han solo a few times but the overall tone wasn't like rey.