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I Think Kylo Was Telling Rey The Truth About Her Parents


Everyone is saying that Kylo is messing with her and trying to get her to go to the Dark Side, well I think Kylo is actually telling the truth. The reason for that is because the past 5-6 years, I've been reading reactions and watching YouTube videos when Empire Strikes Back came out and it got to the part where Vader revealed he was Luke's father. And from what I saw/read over the past 5-6 years, they reacted just the same way as most people are reacting to Kylo telling Rey about her parents.

They aren't believing Kylo and think he is just BS-ing and is playing mind games with her. Plus that there is some BIG twist waiting in Episode 9 that will "save" Rey as a character. Well, it was the same thing with Empire Strikes Back. Everyone was calling BS and that Vader wasn't really Luke's father and Vader was just playing mind games with Luke. But then Return Of The Jedi came out and confirmed that Vader is actually Luke's father.

So I'm thinking history is just repeating itself (among the fans) and that Rey's parents are actually nobodies and there is no major details being left out that is being saved for Episode 9 which will "save" Rey and reveal she is actually the daughter of someone major. I hate to say it, but some fans may just have to accept that she is really the daughter of nobodies and isn't connected to someone major. I did want her to be a Skywalker originally, but I'll accept her as a nobody. I'm just glad she's not a Kenobi (not sure how that is possible), the daughter/granddaughter of Palpatine, or even be Snoke's daughter.

I don't mind Episode 9 proving me wrong though. I like being wrong sometimes.

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I don't have a problem with her parents being no one special, exactly, but I do have a problem with it based on the incredible buildup in the Force Awakens.

In the Force Awakens, we don't know anything about Finn's backstory, and that's fine. The only speculation that came out of that were those who joked that he was probably related to Lando or Mace Windo. No one really talked about that.

So many things happened in the Force Awakens that all but told us Rey was related to someone we already know and that Han, Leia, Kylo Ren and Maz all seemed to know (or at least suspect) who she was.

If Rey waasn't going to be related to anyone, they shouldn't have laid it on that thick.

Nothing like that happened in A New Hope. Luke was just Luke. He was just a farmboy from a far off planet who just happened to get caught up in things. Ben Kenobi knew his father, but that didn't really seem very far fetched at all.

The buildup with Rey was very, very different, so I don't think comparing it to the reveal in Empire is really proof of anything.

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All the “ This.”

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I never felt Force Awakens built up much of a mystery about her parents. I think it was fan hype than anything.

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Maybe not her parents, exactly, but they definitely build up "Who's the girl?" And no cared who Finn was other than Poe when he asked him his name.

Han definitely knew who she was. When Maz asked Han who she was, before Han could answer, the film immediately cut to another scene. If the answer wasn't meant to be very important, why have scenes like that?

The way Kylo Ren responded the first time they mentioned a "girl." the way Leia responded when Finn mentioned Rey, the way Leia acted when she met Rey - all showed that there was something we weren't being told.

In her force vision, when Rey sees the Knights of Ren in the rain, it seems pretty clear that Kylo Ren sees her, too.

And I can't help but wonder if this is, in fact, about her parents still. In the force vision, she's calling out to a ship, "Come back." Who is she calling to? If her parents were really poor and "traded her for a drink," the implication is that they needed the money for a fix. Really?!? Then how did they afford a space ship? Where are they going?

There is more to her story, or, at least, that's what we are led to believe in the Force Awakens.

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No, it was a deliberate Big Mystery, and alluded to in the ads that had Luke saying "...the Force is strong with my family". Personally, I consider Darth Emo to be an unreliable source of information, which leaves the question open.

And I'm fine with her being a Skywalker, fine with her coming out of a unknown gene pool, even fine if she never finds out the real answer. Did anyone else ever read "Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell"? In it there's a character with unknown parentage, and he and we are teased with the prospect if finding out who they are and what his real name us... [spoiler]and he never finds out his real name and fulfills a prophecy about "The Nameless Slave".[/spoiler]. So yeah, it could work if they go in the expected direction or an unexpected one.

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If Johnson were writing and directing episode IX, I would be more confident that Rey's parents were ordinary and I like that. The whole commoner, secretly of noble birth, was played out before video games became popular and has become so trite at this point. It's also as infantile as the "waiting for a prince to sweep me off my feet" trope.

Having said that, Lucas was certainly invested in it with his "midi-chlorian" mumbo jumbo and Abrams may go back to it. Maybe we'll know more in two years.

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Yeah, I think they're dead serious about her being nobody. For the moment. But that doesn't mean a future writer/director won't come along and just say screw that and change everything.

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