It was way more imaginative than any we got in TFA and for that reason I am impressed. I think the reason people hate it is because Star Wars fans are losers who hate everything. But I will stop watching these movies after episode 9.
shareI liked it too!
shareReported!
shareYou'll never amount to anything with that kind of an attitude.
shareAfter thinking about it some more, I still liked it and would rank it in the middle with Rogue One, both right underneath the OT. TLJ does have its problems (Canto Bight scene will always be a blight) and I suspect a lot of chopping was going on in the editing room during the Luke/Rey scenes. It often felt rushed and disjointed.
But the movie really finds it footing later on and there are two incredible scenes in my opinion (Snoke, Luke showdown). The Prequels never gave me the chills in the same way.
Yes. There’s a good SW movie in there, but it’s drowned in cheap humour and pointless subplots. If it were edited down to remove some of those elements (definitely Canto Bight) then you’d have a much tighter narrative.
shareI don't know what the future holds but if I were guessing Canto Bight will prove to be a much more important sequence than we realize right now. It's enough right now that we know it as the introduction of the evil arms smuggler and an adorable stable boy.
shareGood point!
I didn't mind Canto Bight at all, though. I liked Rose and Benicio Del Torro's DJ(especially). He was really fun to watch.
liked TFA, didn't hate this but was disappointed , and people don't hate it because there star wars fans , it just didn't really excite people and included some rather shite jokes and plots
shareFair enough criticism but these "they raped my childhood", worst than Phantom Menace and I'll never see another Star Wars film dramatics just make people look foolish.
shareThe main issue that a lot of people have is that it fails to pick up on the plot threads set up by Abrams in TFA, mainly the ones around Snoke and Rey’s origins. Instead, Snoke is killed without expanding on the character at all, and Rey is simply described as a nobody with nobody parents. Given the setup in TFA, this is deeply unsatisfactory.
shareHow many hours of Game of Thrones did you sit through to find out Jon Snow's parents? How many unresolved narrative threads did we think there were that were only years later clarified?
I'm not saying that is what is happening here. GOT is certainly it's own beast. But I do believe Johnson, like Martin is very aware of what his audience's expectations are and for thematic reasons refuses to meet those expectations.
Johnson may have mistakenly assumed his audience in a post-GOT, Trump-presidency era would more readily follow and forgive not meeting such formulaic requirements. I found it thematically interesting and exciting to explore why Johnson made the decisions he did rather than fixate on my preconceived notions of what this film needed to cover to fill in for TFA.
I hope you’re right, and Abrams resolves things in IX
shareFuck that, bring Lucas back.
shareI don't think we are ever going to get neatly wrapped up packages like Return of the Jedi again. Twin Peaks, the X--files and GOT pretty much made that kind of linear narrative style obsolete.
Look at what Abrams did when he made the new Star Trek movie. With a simple time travel sequence, he obliterated the constraints of three decades of Star Trek narratives and created a whole "field-theory" of narrative possibilities. That is not just gimmickery and arrogance, that is liberation and meaningful creativity, especially to a technological generation.