Einstein, Newton, and Galileo must be rolling in their graves. How sad that in the 21st century this kind of absurd non-scientific nonsense still apparently not only exists, but actually finds an audience of the ignorant, deluded, and foolish to watch it. Amazing.
shareYou don't have a clue of what you're talking about. If you knew the science behind this as much as you're pretending to know, you would at least agree it's an issue with modern astrophysics and cosmology, as most physicists do. When you throw a rant like that, it proves how you are the one who is ignorant, deluded and foolish.
shareDon't make me laugh. There is no "science" behind this. Sungenis is not a scientist, and has no credentials. This "documentary" is a denial of science at it's core, it's misleading, disingenous, and sets out to prove preconceived religious ideas far outside of the mainstream, to say the least. There is no "issue" with modern astrophysics or astronomy. The issue is when people drag out their ancient book of myths and fables to attempt to explain a universe that is only partially understood.
shareThe issue is how the Cosmological Principle is an unwarranted assumption. That's all. If you're seeing any denial of science or preconceived religious ideas, you're just proving my point.
You can pretend superiority as much as you want, but I'm pretty sure you'll prove your ignorance with every comment, just like you did.
Let's see you hang yourself even more. Give one example of what you're saying. At which point it denies science, and how. Let's see if it's really denying science, or if it's you who is really ignorant and deluded here.
No, the issue is selling pseudo-science and mysticism as valid theory or rather valid alternative theory, which is what Sungenis has been trying to do for years. These are the same tactics used by the creationists, the intelligent design people, the historical revisionists like him. Quote-mining, deception, out-of-context presentation, these are all the hallmarks of the snake oil salesman that he is. I'm not buying.
shareSo far you are only ranting and proving how you are the one who is ignorant and deluded. Come on... if it's such a fraud, it should be easy for you to come up with a single example and prove your claims with rational arguments. Don't you have anything better than personal attacks after such a pretty entrance?
What are YOU trying to prove?
shareJust did. Thanks.
shareWhatever. The sun orbits the Earth, which is flat. Is that what you're really trying to say?
shareI'm not trying to say anything other than what I said explicitly, which is to ask you to provide some substantive argument to your claims, but it's obvious you can't do that. You're just ranting, pretending to know what you are talking about, but you can't produce a single argument.
Not a surprise. You're not the first one, and certainly won't be the last.
What "claim" are you talking about?
shareAny of them. You want me to choose one? OK, it won't make any difference, since I'm sure you won't defend it anyway, you'll just keep playing your little act.
This "documentary" is a denial of science at it's core, it's misleading, disingenous, and sets out to prove preconceived religious ideas far outside of the mainstream, to say the least.
That's my opinion. I stand by it. I consider geocentrism (or any revisionary conceptualization of it) to be an absurd, long-debunked concept. I consider Robert Sungenis to be a seriously deluded and dangerous propagandist. I especially detest Holocaust deniers, of which he is one. I also detest creationists, "intelligent design" believers, moon landing hoax believers, and flat-Earthers. Which of those memes exactly were you defending?
shareThat's my opinion. I stand by it.
Obviously I'm not a genius like you who knows the Earth is the center of the universe and can prove it mathematically. Oh well, we can't all be Einsteins.
shareDon't play ironic now, buddy. You were the one who said it's pseudoscience and a fraud, and now your best argument to defend that criticism is to say it's just your opinion. That's ludicrous, but not unexpected.
It's pretty obvious from your first post that you don't have a clue of what you're talking about, you don't really understand the physics behind what you're talking, but how far can you go on deviating from the questions?
Obviously I'm not a genius like you who knows the Earth is the center of the universe and can prove it mathematically.
Oh well, we can't all be Einsteins.
I won't be rude and write here what I think you and Sungenis can go do with each other (or perhaps are already doing). Besides we all know it's turtles all the way down, right?
shareYou can be rude as much as you want, as long as in the end you have an actual argument, but you don't really have any, do you? You have no idea of what you're talking about. 8 posts of nonsense and your best argument was coming up with "it's my opinion, directly out of my ass".
You must be a salesman in your real life, you talk till people either buy something or drop dead of boredom. No go ahead and marry your Holocaust denier pal and have many children together.
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All Art is pretense.
It makes me sad that i am forced to give this 1 star out of 10.
shareHow could a star that has 330,000 times the mass of earth revolve around the earth in a gravity-based orbit? It's a retarded theory. These people who think that humans are special and the earth is somehow the centre of the universe are poor, deluded, uneducated fools. Have some humility and read more books.
Cardboard Box is the Future.
How could a star that has 330,000 times the mass of earth revolve around the earth in a gravity-based orbit?
It's a retarded theory.
These people who think that humans are special and the earth is somehow the centre of the universe are poor, deluded, uneducated fools.
The current year is not relevant in science.
Have you watched it?
"Never eat yellow snow"
Of course he hasn't watched it otherwise he would be praising the movie for it's breakthrough science just like everyone else who has seen it is doing. Thank God atheism is dying out:)
shareThat's what I thought. I have one or two issues with their conclusions but the generalisations made did not seem to have anything to do with the film that I watched. Whether you agree with their findings or not.
"Never eat yellow snow"
Yup, it's from the same old boring leftist play book, keep throwing crap and hope it sticks, but under no circumstances make a rational argument or use science or facts. Their time is nearly at an end anyway so who cares about lefties, they are irrelevant now.
shareCompared to Scientism nonsense by Corporate Scientology? It's often difficult to choose which wackiness I want to indulge in. Real Science ain't real science anymore.
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