Ben Hur, now this mess. What's next? Lawrence of Arabia starring Will Smith? LOL.
Here's the original. (Ignore the sappy singing at the trailer start. It had nothing to do with Bernstein's famous score.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054047/
Wrong link. Here's the right one: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047478/?ref_=nv_sr_1
shareFair enough. May be blasphemy to film purists, but enjoyed the western version with its film score and McQueen one-liners more. "We deal in lead, mister."
shareWhich is why you don't get to expect to be taken seriously. You flat out admit that you enjoyed a remake more than you enjoyed the original, and now you come here to whine about another remake? Come on...
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In fairness the original Magnificient Seven is a translation (Taking a story and putting it into a different setting so that another audience can better enjot and understand the story) of the Seven Samurai, not a remake (Taking a story and trying to improve on it). Your statement would be more accurate if it was put in another setting. The reason he likes it more is because he probably likes westerns more than samurai dramas.
shareits still a remake.
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Fair enough. May be blasphemy to film purists, but enjoyed the western version with its film score and McQueen one-liners more.
Well . . because complaining about stuff is fun. And complaining about the complaints is more fun. And complaining about the complaints about the complaints is more fun still.
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No the Sturges version would have been a "white washed" remake if he had used American, British, and German actors as Japanese Samurai, but putting them in a western setting in Mexico was not white washing. You can argue that using a Jewish actor to play a Mexican or a German Actor to play a Mexican is white washing, but saying that the entire movie is a white washing the Seven Samurai is disingenuous.
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Amen. Funny how OP complains about "PC diversity focused remakes" (read "there are brown people where there wasn't") yet praises another remake which does exactly the same thing but this time in favor of white characters, which apparently makes it ok and to such an extent that he isn't even aware of the fact.
Behind this poor attempt at a disguise, OP's true color are still easily identifiable.
People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs
But it doesn't do the exact same thing.
If the Magnificent Seven (1960) had been titled Seven Samurai and been set in 16th century Japan, but starring Steve McQueen, you would have a point.
This looks fine to me. Im looking forward to it.
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Your understanding of the old West is probably primarily informed by Hollywood westerns and their all-white casts, except for the odd Mexican or Indian. That is not how the west truly was, that is the MOVIE west.
shareThe diversity of the cast is so shamefully and embarrassingly forced, one has to just sit back and laugh at what Hollywood has become.
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The diversity is actually a more faithful representation of the Old West than the original. People were a lot more diverse and there was a lot of intermingling among different races on both sides of the law. This was true both before and after the Civil War. As the social lines were more strictly drawn back east, more and more people felt pushed west in order to have a shot at a real life.
I only hope this remake equals or exceeds the original. Which, as much as I love it, does have its own little forced moments when viewed now.
lol. I live in the "west" in 2016, and it is still primarily white cow folks who are racist when not even trying to be racist. I know black people who have lived in both the south and the inter mountain north west who will tell you the inter mountain north west is MORE racist.
I get there was a few black cowboys back in the day, outnumbered 5000 to 1, that you want to use to point at and say, "move along... nothing to see here, folks". But considering the 200 years of racism everyone has worked so hard to get over, "the west was multi cultural!" is an absolutely absurd tactic to justify Hollywood agenda films.
With that said, this at least looks like one of the those that might still be entertaining when it's all said and done.
To be with another woman, that is French. To get caught, that is American.
African-Americans have been free to go for 150 years. Why do those who hate it here stay?
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Why the hell don't you go? I am sure the Native Americans would be grateful.
shareWe love our country, we just hate racism! All the racist can ALWAYS go back to Europe.
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Maybe they're expecting to be taken by force. But this time, there'll be a more significant resistance.
Why do they give out letter jackets to marching band? It's not a sport! We all know it!
Don't be limited by the modern understanding of multiculturalism (a word I didn't use, btw).
If you're only thinking of the West as places west of the Mississippi you aren't considering what formed the early American population. Many frontiers have existed in this country, from west of the Hudson to west of the Appalachians, from Kentucky and Tennessee to the "Northwest Territory" of Ohio, to the jumping off point of St. Joseph, MO and westward from there. Between Africans and Native Americans in the East there was known race mixing with whites, both voluntary and involuntary, amongst settlers it was not the social stigma in the 1600s and 1700s that it became later, and both populations and their descendants spread west along with Euro-Americans.
Native Americans and whites intermingled far more than is popularly expressed in modern entertainment, something that is better understood in Canada, where people seem more aware of their mixed-race roots. In Canada such people are called Metís and insist on their identity as separate from both First Nations and Euro-Canadians alike, with deep roots in Canadian history. Here in the U.S. just look up "blood quantum" and learn how far back Native Americans and Euro-Americans have been marrying each other and adopting one another's cultures.
Spanish missions. Russian settlements. British exploration. Gold and silver strikes. The Homestead Acts. The building of the railroads. Hawaiians had been visiting the west coast as whaling ship crewmen before Richard Henry Dana sailed in 1834. Japanese immigrated after the 1868 Meiji Restoration and Chinese were not far behind them.
Given the post-Civil War time frame in which the both movies appear to be set a racially mixed Seven is going to be a historically plausible correction, not a PC indulgence. Which is what revisionist history really is; the fact-based inclusion of that which was incorrectly left out in previous versions.
The cowboy days are a specific 20 year period post Civil War.
Yes, there have always been new frontiers, but what you're thinking constitutes "Cowboys" are actually mountain men. Which are completely different people. Much like some are calling Mexican "Banditos" cowboys.
A lot of liberal misconceptions and generalizations are on this thread.
Fact of the matter is, from the Dakotas to the inter mountain northwest (Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, Montana), up until 5 years ago, you would be lucky to find one black person for every 50k white people.
One of the frustrating things about liberals is the ability to argue with someone who knows something via their own 2 eyes, because books and their professors told them contrary.
The written word almost always has an agenda, and professors tend to be some of the dumbest people on earth. Why they went to college and never left.
To be with another woman, that is French. To get caught, that is American.
Actually....it was pretty diverse. It is reported that as much as 1 in 4 Cowboys in Texas were black. Check out http://www.cowboysofcolor.org/about.php
shareYou are 100% correct! The Wild West days took place in the 1870;s and 1880's We all know only white people existed on earth prior to 1900. Only the PC crowd will say that other races walked the earth prior to 1900. We all know there were no black cowboys. It's a scientific fact that the black race didn't even start until the 20th century. Sheesh... ::::::Sarcasm alert::::::
shareYou do know that the original you are talking about is a re-make of a Japanese film..... The Seven Samurai.
shareThe original is actually a Japanese filmed titled Seven Samari from which The Magnificient 7 is based. So...
shareIf I got a dollar for every IMDB thread complaining about political correctness or diversity, I'd be the richest motherfcker in the Solar System.
What's missing in movies is same as in society: a good sense of work ethic and living up to ideals.
Complaining about political correctness has become the politically correct way to minimize and/or justify racism, sexism, homophobia, Islamophobia, etc.
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Real political correctness only serves to obfuscate white privilege and racial discrimination. The facts don't support your view of the world.
sharePretty much hit the nail on the head.
Wait so one black guy, one Alaskan, and one Asian dude among a huge cast of white people is diversity to you? If you say so...
shareIf you're a bigot at least have the testicular fortitude to say you're a bigot. If you don't like a movie like the first Cat Woman (which sucked), or I Am Legend with Will Smith (Kind of sucked too) I can respect that. You don't like a movie because of it's diversity. LMAO. I guess you hated the Last Samurai with Tom Cruise because a white samurai is far fetched.(I actually liked that movie) I'm a big fan of Lord of The Rings, and The Game of Thrones, and could care less if there are hardly any other races besides whites in them because they both are great. I can respect the fact you're a racist if you're honest about it. So don't be insecure let that bigotry out.
shareDoes the OP have a problem with Gods of Egypt being white washed? The movie sucked but, just saying. How about Exodus? LMAO. There's diversity in sports that we play and watch but God forbid there be any diversity in a movie. If it makes you feel better watch it in black and white so there'll be one less Asian and one less Native American. Or just pretend there are two white guys playing as minorities like the westerns in the 40's and 50's if it makes you feel better.
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