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Which part of the liberal agenda is this?


When the local folks turn to their bibles and prayers; which part of the liberal agenda does this fit?

When the oppressed townsfolk turn to gunmen (read: militia); how does this align with the progressive narrative?

When the moral of the story proves to be the need to take up arms and fight for whats yours; which communist tenet promotes this idealogy?






Liberals claim to love "others ideas", until they find out people actually have other ideas.

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Lol so true.

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I'd say when the main bad guy says in the church, "the nation is capitalism, and capitalism is God", as if he was establishing water is wet to give a speech. But you didn't pick up on it, because you have been programmed with the same tripe.

How about the all white bad guys who kill harmless church goers in a frivolous fashion, to be followed by good black guy who shoots chairs out from under his enemies who pose an actual threat. Way to show the duality of human nature. lmao

And then of course, goes on a quick trip to collect every member of the rainbow, as if he were Ron Burgundy blowing on a conch shell.

I don't know about the rest. I got side tracked, came back when I heard the shooting for the town scene which was cool, and then got side tracked again.

The agenda was so obvious right off the bat that it made suspension of disbelief impossible.

The acting seemed fine. Just impossible to get into.



The trolls are the shills defending these "politically correct" cookie cutters.

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If you want to be scared of being nice to people and acknowledging that there are different races that's OK. Just say it.

On an average day, I work with the follow people:

Chinese descent (Hunan)
Egyptian immigrant
Latvian immigrant
Haitian immigrant
Mexican descent
Croatian descent (me)
Spanish descent
Norwegian descent

The others, I do not know nor care to ask. What you see above is not picking and choosing, those are the standard scheduled staff and no-one cares. Hell, half of them vote conservative and voted for Trump.

It's OK to be afraid of diversity. Just say it. "I'm afraid of other cultures."

Try saying it to yourself. "I'm afraid of other cultures and colors"

Say it again. "Some people are different than me and it makes me afraid."


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What the hell are you talking about?

1st off, I'm Mexican American.

2nd, you do realize this condescending BS trying to earn some imaginary merit badge, for defeating imaginary evil, is why people who think like you are on the verge of being politically extinct, right?

The trolls are the shills defending these "politically correct" cookie cutters.

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ok, let's try this again. he made it so easy for you:

"Some people are different than me and it makes me afraid."

it's not that hard.

"why people who think like you are on the verge of being politically extinct, right? "

people who think "all men are created equal" are almost extinct? wow, you are amazingly un-american.

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OP = dumb trash

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How am I dumb, and how am I trash?






Liberals claim to love "others ideas", until they find out people actually have other ideas.

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I love the block button. keeps all the morons in one place

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You're a brave soul.





Liberals claim to love "others ideas", until they find out people actually have other ideas.

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I guess I'll forego the creatively smart-alec response since Janos handled that so well (kudos).

I'm not really sure what you meant with your opening paragraph, or at least what you meant to imply, but it didn't seem to answer my question about how the three core elements supported the progressive agenda. So we'll come back to this.

In your second paragraph you mention the all-white bad-guys. If this is your argument are you meaning to say that this was the point of the movie? That above the message of fighting back, of defending what's yours, banding together in unity for a common good, that the core message of the movie is that white people are bad? If so, then we have very different take-aways from this story.

While I do think that having Ron Burgundy as part of the Magnificent 7 would have made this movie a sure fire 10 rating, I again don't get what point you're trying to make. You could almost use this as allegory for American history. All throughout our time as a country whenever we have needed a call to arms (literally or metaphorically speaking), that call has been answered by people of all races who selflessly drop their racial identity to embrace their national identity and push America forward. How many blacks, Japanese, and Mexicans gave up everything they had to fight in the war? Even in the revolution there were blacks fighting for freedom. The pursuit of liberty and freedom from oppressors is not a white ideal, it's the ideal of all who love liberty. As a white lover of liberty, and mans right to fight for himself, I love seeing that achieved by any race or color. So I'm really not sure how Denzel's supposed rainbow coalition is offensive, since it really reflects American history. Are you ashamed of American history?

To go back to your first paragraph, I think this may be an example of how not to argue with someone you disagree with. First of all it doesn't directly refute any of my statements, and secondly it doesn't seem to really support any of your own statements. The bad guy says capitalism is God. Is this good or bad, to you, that he says it? It seems to me, in my libertarian-conservative view, that this is a bad thing. Capitalism equals good, capitalism does not equal God. Rampant capitalism was not a virtue of the founding fathers, it was actually something that they put safeguards in place for. Capitalisms power grew when Andrew Jackson expanded the Fed. John Quincy Adams actually fought vigorously against Jackson as an anti-fed proponent. Now I know that some are programmed to think that communism is evil and capitalism is the holy system of the Lord. But while communism is in fact evil, capitalism is not perfect just because it's better. You see, unchecked capitalism creates oppression. The founding fathers knew this and it's why they worked to prevent it's over-proliferation. Communism and UN-CHECKED capitalism are not too different in the end. Communism is, in simple terms, where the government controls business, and with UN-CHECKED capitalism we get business controlling the government. Either way, the individual looses independence and freedom to control their own life.

So to me, yes, a person yelling capitalism IS God would seem like a very bad thing. Especially when juxtaposed against everyday Americans who are working to provide for themselves and humbly turning to God in their trouble. And since we know how much you racists, I mean detractors, require accuracy in the movie, we obviously couldn't have had him shouting about communism since that wasn't an issue in this given environment and would have been historically out of place.

So if you could please explain to me what it was I didn't pick up on, and just how is it I seemed to be programmed?







Liberals claim to love "others ideas", until they find out people actually have other ideas.

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Yes, I get it. Only liberal view points count as being authentic, even though everyone on this planet has realized liberal white people are the fakest people on God's green earth.

I have no clue what we would all do without your segregated, pseudo compassion. lmao


The trolls are the shills defending these "politically correct" cookie cutters.

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Were you responding to me or someone else? Because this doesn't adress anything I just said.





Liberals claim to love "others ideas", until they find out people actually have other ideas.

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I can tell right off the bat you're trying to prove your point by dictating the goal posts.

Sorry, whether or not the movie has an agenda doesn't come down to your 3 cherry picked points.

Obviously, certain things are going to glow to someone who doesn't believe in the liberal agenda vs someone who does believe in the liberal agenda and is looking for proof "over the top" to themselves.

You need to know, it is all a charade. As minorities overflow into rural America, we quickly realize no one shoots at us or our kids, law or gangster. No one forces us into ghettos, while claiming they're the ones who care from the gated city next door.

What you see as "diversity", the rest of us are catching onto as being the candy the real race mongers use to get children into the van.

The trolls are the shills defending these "politically correct" cookie cutters.

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Wow, and you got all this from a black cowboy who helps fight for freedom against oppressors? I think I feel comfortable leaving you alone and letting the world decide for itself.





Liberals claim to love "others ideas", until they find out people actually have other ideas.

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I'm pretty sure the black guy shooting chairs out was a show in speed and accuracy but by all means make up whatever you'd like. Fear is a powerful thing.




But wait a minute what about Chicago?

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Yeah, keep telling yourself that.

The trolls are the shills defending these "politically correct" cookie cutters.

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liberal???? communist???

"When the local folks turn to their bibles and prayers; "
"When the oppressed townsfolk turn to gunmen (read: militia);"

that's about the most republican thing one can come up with.

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Exactly.





Liberals claim to love "others ideas", until they find out people actually have other ideas.

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It just goes to show that those points you mentioned belong in the 1800's and not in a modern and enlightened society.



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"When the moral of the story proves to be the need to take up arms and fight for whats yours; which communist tenet promotes this idealogy? "


Um, that's like Step One in Marx's Communist plan. But I get it, you're American. Knowledge isn't your strong suit.

"To be able forcefully and threateningly to oppose this party, whose betrayal of the workers will begin with the very first hour of victory, the workers must be armed and organized."
- Karl Marx, 1850

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It must be hard for you to hate what you don't understand. Don't worry, as a Christian, I'll take you in when you get into the wrong fight. I'm sorry that you feel this way.

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