Basically perfect ending
The series itself is just pure gold from start to finish. Bittersweet rather sad ending that was very real and emotional. Completely satisfying.
shareThe series itself is just pure gold from start to finish. Bittersweet rather sad ending that was very real and emotional. Completely satisfying.
share100% agree
shareCat lived.
shareYes, that was my main worry throughout the whole series!!!
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Amen! I cheered and applauded when I saw the cat. I knew John wouldn't have the heart to let the poor animal be put
to death.
Ironically enough I feed a feral cat who I named Harry, who hangs around my back deck. As soon as the show ended,
I went outside to the deck. Guess who was waiting for dinner? Harry! So I gave him food and water.
Perfect!
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My stomach was in knots at the end, hoping that he saved the cat. π¨
shareI was in a little stress ball on the couch, worried sick about the cat. I get that you could argue it was a great way of getting at the role of a defense attorney -- to try to save those locked up, unable to help themselves, without resources, and there will always be too many to save -- but I just kept seeing that furry little face and how the cat broke out of the room to come sleep with him in bed.
Yes!
100% agree also! Stone got kitty back too OMG! Perfect show!!
shareThey played it safe. This ending was about what I expected. I either thought they'd go this route or they would have him go back to jail for drugs.
shareThey played it safe. This ending was about what I expected. I either thought they'd go this route or they would have him go back to jail for drugs.
My thoughts exactly and why I hated the finale. Wasn't satisfying at all.. in fact just the opposite. This is the thing that pisses me off about American series because even when they are all about "going there", they never truly "go there". They should have done something bold.
shareExactly, it wasnΒ΄t satisfying at all- except for the cat. Naz's life was ruined and so was the female lawyer's, and the killer was someone irrelevant. Yet, I thought it was original and way more realistic than normal crime shows, it shows the dark side of the justice system and make us rethink it all. Could Naz's life not have been ruined if the police and the DA had looked in to other suspects instead of just focusing on him, or even sent him to house arrest instead of prison? For sure, but thatΒ΄s what happens many times..
And in that moment, I swear we were infinite.
I thought it was very satisfying.
One of the more interesting arcs of the season was how the DA gradually comes to be on his side, and to see him as innocent herself.
She knew already that there is another suspect which would make the chances for a conviction even smaller. So it was more or less a logical step as she decided not to force another trial on Naz.
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he didn't do it, but would be locked up anyway. Now that's something to digest.
For instance that we as viewers would know he didn't do it, but would be locked up anyway. Now that's something to digest.
Oh my good God, I know. Literally perfect. Somber. The woman he met and loved in one night is dead, his best friend and protector is still locked up, but his innocence is preserved. All of the other heavy hitters seemed to find some resolution too. Bravisimo!
shareI loved it. John Turturro was amazing in this. The entire cast was wonderful. It was well written and directed. I agree completely with the OP.
shareStone started off slow in his closing arguments.By the end with tears welling in his eyes and went into his soliloquy about are Constitutional Rights as citizens . The Hanging Judge probably would have pardoned Nas.John T. Hit a bases loaded grand slam to win the World Series in the bottom of the 9 th inning. Great role for this long time character actor. He will be in Emmy race next spring along wit Raz as Nas. Very enjoyable mini series. For those who didn't enjoy I'm sorry , and found so many thing implausible it's rare to find a perfect screen play this wasn't I stick by my
rating of 9.5 .
I respect your opinion. Though it was devoid of punctuation (English clearly is a secondary language) I still understood the meaning the whole way. I agree that both John (especially) and Riz did a phenomenal job, I can't agree with a 9.5 for the show itself. Too many holes, too much wasted screen time.
shareAgreed, the writing, directing, all of the actors, especially Turturro and the photography were simply amazing! Yet the ending, while realistic, wasn't satisfying enough for me..
And in that moment, I swear we were infinite.
I didn't like that the killer was a dude we couldn't guess because the relationship between him an Andrea was kept hidden until the final episode.
It felt cheap how they just pulled it out of their ass at the end there, and also that this whole series could've been avoided if the detective had spent more than 10 minutes investigating it.
Well, there was pretty overwhelming circumstantial evidence pointing toward Naz.
sharePretty much, it was also implausible that Andrea's boyfriend was not mentioned at all by the police or questioned.
sharePretty much, it was also implausible that Andrea's boyfriend was not mentioned at all by the police or questioned.
She didn't have a boyfriend. If you're referring to her relationship with Ray, this appeared to have been a brief fling that ended long ago.
shareYes but I believe one of the points of the story is to show how the presumption of guilt instead of innocence can lead to shoddy detective work.
They literally did not even look for another suspect because they had so much on Naz. All the other suspects were brought by the defense.
Watch episode 8 when Box brings other evidence to Weiss and the look on her face , and reply "we got more on the kid " then the disgusted look Box shoots at Weiss taking his accumulated evidence with him '. Probably making sure it wasn't destroyed. The topper was Weiss giving her closing argument and Box jumping up and leaving disturbing Weiss train of thought also convicting her conscience she had more to say and basically stopped and thanked the jury .
shareBut isn't that the way that cops are trained: We never hear that Police are looking to clear suspects, but to charge them. It's important that we do not convict the wrong man, but police are never praised for this and instead are lauded for their skills at catching criminals.
We had the advantage of seeing the suspect's reaction when he found the body, and whether he was guilty or not, we do know that he had no recollection of the crime so we can presume that he might not be guilty. The police had everything but an eyewitness in the way of evidence. Add to that, then once he invokes his right to silence, if he has an alternative explanation, the police will not be aware of it.
We obviously get to see things that the jury does not, but if I had been on that jury, I would have convicted him without hesitation.
This piece of work was much more than a simple 'whodunnit.' It was an examination of 'the system' in all of it's gritty imperfection.
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I canΒ΄t agree more. if their point was to tell the audience how faulty is justice I believe if I were a detective i felt ofendend.
shareI completely agree. It felt deus ex machina to just bring out a guy in the last act as the perpetrator.
shareI liked the finale but I agree with you.
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this whole series could've been avoided if the detective had spent more than 10 minutes investigating it.
I really am not sure I can agree with either of the 10 minute comments. Look at the wealth of circumstantial evidence against the suspect, and all he can say is, "I don't remember".
There is absolutely nothing pointing to any other suspect and Naz can't help himself by giving any other explanation. Where were the other clues for the Police to investigate? To all intents and purposes, this had "sex crime" written all over it. It's only in the closing stages that we discover that a couple of people might have financial motives.
"I didn't like that the killer was a dude we couldn't guess because the relationship between him an Andrea was kept hidden until the final episode."
That is because this show was not a "Who Dunnit?". It was just a show about the corrupt judicial system.
The show already hinted at it earlier on. Halle was introduced in episode 6, and it was known that he knew Andrea and her family. But Halle was trying to cover his own tracks by helping Stone uncover dirt on her stepfather. He basically sent Stone on a red herring.
Yeah, I didn't like the "no real hints" twist of him as the likely killer only in last episode.
I actually thought it was somewhat realistic that the investigation didn't go very far and I actually liked the idea that a detective who seems to be genuine made a mistake. That said, it wasn't perfect there because how many times would multiple people have looked at the Andrea getting in cab footage without questioning the looking back part, just to name one thing. Overall, though, I think it's believable enough.
Yeah that was a weird ending, like what exactly was the killer's motive?
sharethey created a locked room mystery and never showed how it was done -- total cop out
People on here talking about what a great ending this was remind me of people last year who said what a great fight mayweather and manny gave us -- but instead of wasting a 100 bucks we wasted 8 weeks
I believe a second watch will show that the clues were all there.
shareI implore you to provide any details whatsoever that were given to us through the first six freakin' episodes that pointed to that dude being 1) her ex!! and 2) the killer.
Take all the time you want. Watch it seventeen times if you need to. You still won't be able to comply with my request.
Yes, because in real life all murders are solved and explained perfectly at the conclusion of the trial.
shareit's not real life, it's a TV show
shareYes, that was my point. It was trying to be a little more realistic, so it didn't leave everything nicely resolved like an episode of CSI. While I don't think it was a truly great series, at least it wasn't completely formulaic, which your post seemed to imply that you missed the nice clean ending of a standard network crime drama. Some of us were grateful that it wasn't standard network type fare.
shareIt was trying to be a little more realistic, so it didn't leave everything nicely resolved like an episode of CSI.
i disagree but respect your opinion
on a side note, the poster below my post brought up the CSI Stone was watching on TV...It's the 2nd time he has had a show on talking about luminol testing
it was almost like the show runners were poking a finger in the eye at the viewers who were railing against the lack of blood angle -- sort of like "no, we didn't forget about that, we just didn't want to go there" lol
This show wasn't realistic at all.
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Step Dad and Ray the accountant arguing at Andrea funeral ,with Stone not on case but still had a interest . And happened to video the exchange. So their were clues. They just didn't tie together. At the very least 2 suspects the police never interviewed . As a matter of fact Box told Stone too leave these people alone .
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