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It's a fixed, NOT-alterable timeline...

posted 8 years ago by Necronomicon2016
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That's the biggest twist of the movie. The final surprise.

The Temporal Agency is a "trick". The Agents believe to be changing the past (in order to improve history) but in truth they don't know they are just fulfilling their predestined roles in the past events.

It's a fixed timeline, like 12 MONKEYS (the movie) or TERMINATOR 1. A casual loop.

There was never an "original timeline". The paradoxes always happened the way they happen in the movie.

The NEWSPAPERS CLIPPINGS coming from "different iterations of the future" were FAKE. Maybe the Temporal Agency did that. Maybe the crazy and old Ethan Hawke did that. Or maybe they were an "ARTIFACT" which never had an origin, because Young Ethan Hawke took them from old Ethan Hawke and so on and on and on and on.

[–] adrianmantsch83 8 years ago

Yes, it's fixed timeline. There is one thing, though! There are at least two causality loops, one where John kills his future self and one where he doesn't. One loop causes the other one, but I don't remember which one.

[–] Necronomicon2016 8 years ago

There are at least two causality loops, one where John kills his future self and one where he doesn't.

That's not possible in a fixed timeline.

He always killed his future self.

[–] DeniP 8 years ago

How could s/he have "made" himself (inseminated her/himself) if s/he was never born, therefore did not exist and therefore could not inseminate anyone?

Basic time-travel problems...