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(Spoiler) How important is Captain America?


This has probably come up before i just watched this for the third time,and just noticed the moment that Cap slightly moves Thor's hammer.Is that not a big deal? Im more of a casual comic guy so i dont know if this led to anything in the comics or if it even happened.My question is for the people better educated on this subject.Will this lead to something in future MCU films,or was it just a random thing?

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I think I learned a long time ago that Thor's hammer can be wielded by anyone with integrity and courage! It's been picked up by an alien who was protecting his people aboard a ship in the animated series years ago! ;-)

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The comic books and movies aren't always exactly alike, so just stick around and enjoy the ride.

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That (could be) incredibly important.

Cap does indeed move the hammer a very little bit and Thor absolutely notices.

Possible MCU outcomes/reasons:

1. Cap may have known he moved it or he may have even believed he could and sort of tried to fake that he couldn't out of respect for Thor and/or not actually wanted to rule Asgard.

2. Cap may not have noticed himself (though I doubt it - he's Cap after all).

3. Excepting #2, I think Cap knows he could move Mjolnir and probably use it if there was a need. Does he worry maybe that if he does then Thor no longer can? Is that one of the rules?

4. At some point where it really means something, most expect that Cap will use Mjolnir. Thor may die in Infinity War or just be knocked out/bound etc. Leading to Cap using Mjolnir to save the day.

5. It's possible it was just a nod to the comics (where yes, Cap has lifted Mjolnir along with a very short list of others). They may never revisit in the MCU.


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To lift Thor's hammer, requires a sense of self-sacrifice and honor that few have. Thor has this. He proved it when he was willing to let Loki kill him to protect the people of Earth. It's the opposite to how he was at the beginning of the movie when he was controlled strongly by his emotion (especially anger), and doing what he wanted and not what was properly needed.

That Steve was able to move the hammer, even a little, shows that some of that resides within him, and that in the future, we might see Steve able to pick up the hammer. It was a nod to that.

No one else even came close.

Vision did later, but the assumption is that he is an android (lacks Ultron's desire for harm) and therefore innocent. We don't see anger, just calm and reflection in him. He's like a child in a grown body, learning.

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Not only did Vision hold the hammer, but he appeared to know that he could before he actually did it. My theory on that is that Vision knew "Infinity Stone trumps Hammer."

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One theory is he tried, but he's mentally reluctant to lift it completely. Maybe not out of respect for Thor, but all his life he's been trying to prove he can do the best he can. But I think now he's starting to have doubts. He's a man out of time, his best friend is a brainwashed killer, SHIELD turned out to be infiltrated by Hydra, killing countless innocents, giving him trust issues. He even said in THE WINTER SOLDIER "it's just not the same." Plus he can't seem to lead the Avengers the way he wants. It was made worse by the events of CIVIL WAR. Steve probably can't lift it because he doesn't think he's worthy.

Steve's probably the closest to a brooding emo Marvel's gonna get.

But I do hope he lifts it in INFINITY WAR. Maybe Thor is knocked out, and Captain, without even thinking about it, runs, lifts it, and bashes Thanos across the face with it. I'd love to see that.


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