Has anyone seen the abortion scene?
Has anyone seen the abortion scene? How long and graphic is it?
shareIt's about 7 minutes VERY graphic and tough to watch.
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The conversations that sandwich the abortion - the one she has with the psychologist (who denies her the clinical abortion because she is not in the "right state of mind to make that decision") and with Seiligman after (he doesn't want to make a comment on her 'badness' as a person becaue she aborted herself, he calls her a "Texas prolifer" or something) are quite deep and worth considering. That itself should have been left in the uncut version in someway.
shareI just read up a bit on this scene, and I must say that the way Joe coldly goes about doing this, not to mention abandoning her already existing child makes her very unlikable imo.
shareHmmmmm....I don't think she abandoned Marcel. She loved her son. Seems to me more that Jerome took him away from her out of jealousy because of her lovers- lovers HE told her to take and which fed her sex addiction. Think of it as giving a heroin addict morphine. And he put the child in a foster home because he didn't want to take care of him.
I agree that Joe isn't a particularly likeable character- she is cold and kind of mean spirited- but still sympathetic.
How do the FX in the scene look? Do they look realistic? Someone take me through the scene and describe it in detail.
shareIt's a very well-done sequence and should have been left in the final cut. Everything else that was cut the movie is better off without, but not this. You should just watch it for yourself. Extremely realistic and 'up-close.' Charlotte Gainsbourg's acting is exceptional here. What von Trier, I think, is emphasizing in this scene and the conversations that bookend it is how liberal/left culture affirms a woman's 'right to choose' but can't stand to look upon the abortion ITSELF, because the abortion itself is intolerable.
share- Is she completely nude while doing it?
Oddly enough, I can't recall, but I don't think so. I tend to remember her being clothed from the waist up.
- What tools does she use?
Several long pikes of different widths, to open her cervix, and then a re-fashioned wire coat hanger to drag out her child.
- How long is the scene?
Long. About five minutes for the actual abortion, bookended by approx. five-minute build-up and wind-down scenes, for a total of about fifteen minutes.
- where is she while she does it?
On her kitchen floor.
- How do the FX look? Are they convincing/realistic? Are they they practical?
They look to me like practical effects, and yes, are grossly convincing. Gainsbourg's acting is what makes it really painful to watch, however.
- Does any score play throughout?
No music.
- Do we see the unborn fetus afterward?
Yes, and it's still moving.
- How much pain is she in? Does she scream, cry, whimper?
Tremendous pain. Yes, she screams, cries and whimpers.
Thanks rabbit-room. Much appreciated. :-)
sharejust saw it. pretty brutal
shareWow, I don't even remember this scene being in the movie(s).
To tell the truth, I don't remember a whole lot of this film. The heroine really started getting on my nerves in Part II, and then the ending was just inexplicable. And I wasn't clear if the lead character LOST her physical pleasure in sex around the midway point, or was suddenly admitting she'd never really felt it from the beginning.
(I remember I liked Uma Thurman's big scene, because at last the film had some humor to it.)
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