All white women who say


They're not attracted to negroes is lying. Is there any truth to this statement? If so can the same be said about white men and black women?

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I'm an old white guy who has always been attracted to black women. Unfortunately, most of them don't like me :-(

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There are a lot of black women out there who are attracted to white men. I'm attracted to white men but I don't really care about race I think every race has their ugly and attractive people.

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You must be young. Women my age rarely date outside their race. The few non-white women I've dated were all in their 20s, but they were too young for a long-term relationship. If only I'd been born a few decades later...sigh...

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Yes I'm 28 years old.

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Tiffybearnescessity & Antilles-7 sitting in a tree.

I Sympathise with Lars Von Trier.

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Um....ok lol

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Sorry, I think that probably seemed funnier in my head.

I Sympathise with Lars Von Trier.

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(I laughed) :D

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I actually did laugh out loud when I read this. Well played sir, well played.


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Ah...I understand. Yeah, women my age are not only very close-minded about dating outside their race, but the old, non-white women I've spent time with have major chips on their shoulders and attribute every negative thing that happens to them to their skin color. I'm an old, white guy who often receives poor service. But should I blame or attribute that experience to anything other than incompetence or ignorance? Nope! On the other hand, the lovely ladies in their 20s that I've gotten to know over the past few years don't feel like they've ever been treated differently because of how they were born. But then again, I live in California (a very diverse state). Cultures and attitudes might be different in other parts of the US. But please keep up your positive attitude and outlook, Tiffany. Most people agree with you.

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I am a white man and black women are by far the ugliest of any race.

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That's your opinion but there is beautiful and ugly in every race.

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True but he has a point. Porn industry is dominated by White girls.
Ask yourself why.

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Yeah, it's called demographics. 14 percent of porn performers are Black (Jon Millward's Deep Inside study), 12.2 percent of US population is Black (2010 census).

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I am a white guy and I am attracted to cuteness and intelligence. The color of skin is not a factor.

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Agreed I could care less what race they are.

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I would say that there is no truth in it. Some do, some don't. I can't imagine a racist taking kindly to this suggestion, for example.

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If so can the same be said about white men and black women?


Lol, no. They are probably the least preferred race for white men (half breeds non withstanding). I've never seen a white man with a black woman, but I've seen a few the other way around. Not many though, and mostly lower class women. If they can get it, people prefer to stay with their own.

The character in the movie probably thought so though, because as a major slut she enjoyed the big cocks. So she assumed all women were the same.

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Lol, no. They are probably the least preferred race for white men


I'm a white man and I don't think that's true at all. Where are you getting that information from, just your circle of friends? I think as has been discussed it is completely up to preference, social surroundings, what you're used to etc.


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I'm a white man and I don't think that's true at all. Where are you getting that information from, just your circle of friends? I think as has been discussed it is completely up to preference, social surroundings, what you're used to etc.


As I said, never seen a white man with a black woman. But I have seen a few the other way around. White men favor Asians in pretty clear numbers where I come from.

You also may think that all those black women you see are fully black. Likely not (if you're in America), and I made exceptions for half breeds.

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White men favor Asians in pretty clear numbers where I come from.


90% chance of you being from Australia.. Chinese have bought-off most of your Kangroo country anyways.

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I don't know I know of some white men who are interested in black women whether it's for a relationship or just sexual. I also know of some white men and other race of men who don't find black women attractive at all. I guess it really depends; some of these same men will make exceptions for mixed black women though. When it was brought up in the film I felt her attraction for black men had more to do with a fetish she had going on at the time not sure if she was with a black man sexually after this scene because it was never addressed again in the film.

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I think generally it is a preference thing. Ultimately people can't help who they are attracted to. Personally I'm attracted to... women. Race and hair colour etc, never really comes in to it.

when it was brought up in the film I felt her attraction for black men had more to do with a fetish


I think you're right, and I think that it's true that some white women in a predominantly white society probably have a fantasy that involves being with a black man. One would assume that as more cities and countries become mixed race and multi- cultural that, that fetish will loose some of it's momentum.
It's hard to say where the origins come from.... They discussed further stereotpyes with black males in 'Masters of Sex' recently (a show set in the 50's and 60's) such as them being well endowed and the whole Mandingo animalistic thing. Perhaps those stereotpyes (although let's face it half of that is probably more of a fact) are still very active even now in the 21st Century.
Hard to know if that's worrying or not really.

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Not sure where you're based, but obviously not London, UK. Mixed race couplings are very common here, and in most urban areas of the UK. Maybe it's because our history of immigration stretches back a lot further than than the area you come from.

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According to evolutionary biology there really is no such thing as divergent race.


This is where the Merovingian tells you "an illusion created between those who have power and those who have not".

In fact, if nature teaches us anything it is that equality doesn't exist. If evolutionary theory teaches us anything it is that difference in ability and the nurturing of those abilities is what creates new races and species.

Quantifying the advancement of certain races is difficult, but to the naked eye it can be no doubt whites, jews and nothern asians have an advantage over the rest. It can also be no doubt that negros are better at certain sports. With the way nature and evolution works it would be suspicious if we didn't have these marked differences. Something like climate for example may not do much to change basic genetics, but they can have indirect effects such as producing fewer, but healthier children. Fewer children, and smaller societies, also means more individuality and better individual nurture. Over time that would lift the abilities of the entire population because certain genes don't survive and others are nurtured and grown. Give this thousands of years and thousands of generations and you will start to develop some marked differences between different peoples.

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There is a fairly recent and interesting discovery. Most humans today have some small percentage of Neanderthal DNA but those with a direct line to ancestors who stayed in Africa have the smallest %, if any, of Neanderthal DNA, the Europeans and Asians have the largest %. It is interesting because we know that cross-breeding (in this case Homo Sapiens with Neanderthal) will produce a hybridized species which can have measurable differences.

Just an interesting factoid, no conclusions being drawn. But such genetic variations can be significant.

Here is an article, there are a number of them: http://www.sci-news.com/othersciences/anthropology/science-neanderthal -genes-modern-human-dna-01734.html

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The difference between those who have power and those who do not is a cultural one. Not racial. I'm sorry but your assertion that the "naked eye" reveals anything is evidentially specious. That the "whites, jews and northern Asians" have an advantage over the rest is a distinction wrought of political ineffectiveness, wealth disparity, and social inequality. It has nothing to do with racial differences. As to the claim that climate may not do much to change basic genetics...this is an astoundingly ignorant statement. Climate is a form of environmental pressure that determines the suitability and survivability of species in terms of population control. The lower a population, the fewer individuals there are that carry different genetic sequences for corresponding regions of the genome. Genetic variation is the raw material of evolution, it increases the ability of a species to evolve in response to changes in its environment. Natural selection acts on genetic variation, giving advantageous gene versions precedence. If the right gene versions are not present in a population, that species cannot adapt. If changes in climate cause a drought, that could force a non-local species into unfamiliar territory to search for water, that invasive species could carry with it a pathogen and infect an established species living near the water. If the infected species population is low due to a lack of food from the drought, then there is less of a chance that there is an individual within the population carrying gene versions that allow it to resist the pathogen, and therefore the population could be wiped out. A more genetically variable population decreases this possibility.

Who we are is an amalgam of our genetics and our subjective experiences which in turn become the genetics of each new generation. If our ancestors hadn't migrated north we wouldn't be white. If the ancestors of ALL peoples had migrated north and settled along the same latitude we would all look virtually the same and we wouldn't be having this conversation. Could the reasoning behind racial differences be anymore superfluous?


And you think culture comes from where? It comes from blood. That's why similar peoples have similar cultures across borders. That's why you feel an innate comfort being around people who are similar to you.

Where is the proof that race doesn't play into it? From where I'm looking every measurable factor differs, and sometimes greatly. Why have black Africa never created a proper civilization? Why can a white man never outrun a black man? Why do East Asians have a higher intelligence? They certainly don't have the most advanced societies, so it must be something else.

The rest of your post is pretty much a longer version of what I already said, and only goes to disprove your first statements. If environment can affect the genetic makeup of populations, it's quite obvious the odds of them ever being equal is close to impossible.

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I've also queried this assertion by Jo on this board. I've never personally been attracted to black guys or fantasised about them but I grew up in the west of Ireland where up until very recently it was rare to come in contact with anyone who wasn't white.
The only thing I have really noticed now I live in the UK is that in the interracial couples I've seen where the male is black and the female is white, the female is always....somewhat of a larger lady. Not sure if this is common worldwide but I've certainly noticed it. My husband has said it may be a historical/cultural thing where in the past if someone is more rubenesque that indicates that they may be more well off, like for e.g when it was believed it was better to be pale than tanned as being tanned meant you worked outdoors where the richer people didn't and therefore didn't spend hours working in the sun.
However a female friend of mine who is black has said that she would never date a black guy and has said that the reason that they date larger white women is because it's a status thing to have a white girlfriend but often the more attractive girls may reject them so they aim for the ones who are "grateful for the attention".

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I had no problem with Jo feeling the way she did I just wanted to know what Lars was feeling and thinking when he put that line in the movie. It almost felt like Jo was speaking from his direct point of view rather than her own and it was sort of thrown in there to shock the viewers. There was nothing in the film to really build up to that considering the only encounter that she had with a black man was in that scene. The only reason I felt she wanted to have sex with the black guy was because she was in to trying new things that were dangerous at that point or what she felt was dangerous.

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It's likely that von Trier was just being the provocateur again. There is still a rather ingrained feeling against black/white mixed race couples, no matter how much people try to say there isn't or how little race matters to them. I think he was playing on the fears (or at least perceived fears) of white men that their women are lusting after black men, not making a factual statement about the sexual appetites of all white women.

Also, I don't think that that scene was the only one where she was involved with a black man. There's a part where she says something about embarking "on a trip through...the country of the big black cocks", and while bunch of penises are shown. That at least implies she wasn't too picky about the race of the man she was with.

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I've never personally been attracted to black guys or fantasised about them but I grew up in the west of Ireland where up until very recently it was rare to come in contact with anyone who wasn't white.

It could also just be that you're not into black guys. Doesn't make you a racist or anything. Coming from a place where black guys are rare doesn't change anything, I think. A lot of people tend to go for the unreachable and "exotic" when it comes to fantasy (and not only sexual fantasy) so the fact there aren't many black guys around might actually even spur it on in some people.

The only thing I have really noticed now I live in the UK is that in the interracial couples I've seen where the male is black and the female is white, the female is always....somewhat of a larger lady

My girlfriend is curvy, certainly not anywhere near "large" but she gets hit on by black guys all the time. I guess they don't subscribe to the media BS that women have to be skinny and they like breasts and hips? I don't know. It's probably cultural though.

However a female friend of mine who is black has said that she would never date a black guy and has said that the reason that they date larger white women is because it's a status thing to have a white girlfriend but often the more attractive girls may reject them so they aim for the ones who are "grateful for the attention"

 wow, your friend sounds very bitter. Sour grapes anyone?
I guess it's a variation on the usual "black guys who date white women are traitors to their race and are just going for trophy women" that I see on the web a lot (especially when a hot black male celebrity is seen with a white woman) but to me, that says more about the chronic lack of self-esteem in some black women. By saying black men are trading up by dating white women, they assume they are worth less than white women, which is a shame, imo.
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I always find it interesting how people try to use pseudo science to justify their supremacist views. "but to the naked eye it can be no doubt whites, jews and nothern asians have an advantage over the rest." "Something like climate for example may not do much to change basic genetics, but they can have indirect effects such as producing fewer, but healthier children." Laughable! First of all, climate has been proven to be one of the most important factors in the evolution of organisms. A more harsh, less nurturing, unforgiving environment with fewer resources would cause any creature that evolves to survive it to develop a less forgiving, less nurturing, more cunning and cut throat nature. The worst bully in my high school wasnt the biggest, smartest or strongest. He was, however, the most cruel, vindictive, fearful and disagreeably natured individual there. His willingness to hurt others to control the school was not a testament to his superiority, but rather, displayed his less humane and more animalistic nature. I would also bet the house that his home was one of the most harsh, unforgiving and least nurturing environments of all students'. He may have since moved from his home and put down roots somewhere else far away, but his base nature and deep down feelings of inferiority still remain. He will always know he came from a *beep* environment and will always need to hurt others to convince himself that he's superior despite the obvious implications his actions.

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Humans are a species, a species with races. Of course there is a black and white race, are you blind? And it's not just skin color, it's everything. We're both humanoids yeah, but we have differences ranging from colors to physique and behavior. Like cats and dogs.

It doesn't have to apply to every member of an ethnicity. It's not an individual quality, it's the total sum of all the peoples. That's culture.

Of course there's innate value when you have built up certain genetics in certain environments. Dogs who are bred to be hunters have an innate value in that field from the moment they are born. You can't just train any dog to do this, you take a specially bred dog to do it. Because his ground floor is so much better. In the same way negros have an innate value when it comes to living in warm climates, whites have an innate value in the cold.

I never said environment doesn't play a part, but it's far from everything. Yes, you can adapt any human to any society, but that is exactly something that doesn't have an innate value. It requires refueling to be sustained. If at one point immigrants from another part of the world became the majority in a neighborhood, as we have plenty of examples from in America, they revert back to their own racial culture (influenced by the American one). Negros have lived in America for hundreds of years and still they maintain a notably separate culture from say WASPS. Like with the dog, you can train it but it won't be as good or as compatible, and when he dies his offspring will require the same training. Once the dominance of white culture goes away in America you will see a new culture, because the racial stock is different. We already see this.

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No *beep* they are different species. I was of course talking about how they each have many distinct races. Innate means inborn, and if a negro has the ability to create more melanin at birth, that's an innate quality. As in not taught.

And you are incapable of understanding that different genetics means different people. People create cultures, civilizations, social inequality etc. Yes, all of these also play a subsequent part in shaping new members of such a society, but that original society didn't happen by happenstance. It was a combination of coincidence, environment and GENES. But go ahead, choose to believe that all genes does is limit a white mans ability to run fast.

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Ok, that means two white people will have a black kid tomorrow. You don't even understand your own words. We all know the genes change, and that creates innate abilities specific to that gene set, like having your kids be the same race as you. You even say it yourself, but apparently you think that means "we are all alike". Alrighty then!

Now, please stop posting Cletus and go back to having sex with your sister, praying to Jesus, and driving your pick-up truck around looking for *n#ggers* to assault.


True colors at last.

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That's it? No more arguments? Ok then.

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The thought of someone like you going through my post history amuses me.

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Are most of you folks nutty. None of you thought the OP was a troll? You are responding to a a bigot. Folks like you are justifying their being. Funny some of you folks sounded ok but the bigots crawled out of the mud too. None of you noticed that?

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I'm neither a troll or a bigot but nice try though. My question was very valid considering the topic was brought up in the film. Did you not catch that part or are you bothered by the thought of black and white people being attracted to each other? I have no problem with different races being attracted to each other because I'm attracted to all races.

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My bad, I make mistake I am sorry. I was referring to a early post that said black women were the ugliest in the world. And people responded to that mess. I have a theory why we see these situations in movies. And how and why movies deal with black men and women. that is a whole other topic.

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I would like to hear your theories if it has anything to do with the topic in this post if you don't mind.

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It was a very rare scene indeed. Other then in Muriel's Weddings. Or a Porn movie. I feel it is very interesting that in American films you would hardly ever see the main actress having sex with a black man.

For example they have change book plots to get round it. For example Along Came Spider, they had a older man played by Morgan Freeman to play main male and kept the young agent the same age. In the book they were in love with each other and it became a main point of the plot because of the ending when he found out it was was her who was the killer. In The Pelican Brief again the two main characters were involved and the man was black and the women was white. In the movie nothing like that happened. Not even Denzal Washington was good enough for Juliet Roberts. In The Bone Collector again the main characters were black and white and were in involved and again in the movie Denzal Washington was not good enough for even Angelie Jolie, But no one minds having black woman having sex with white men in movies such as Halle Berry, Zoe Saldana , Rosario Dawson , Kerry Washington.
They even had some movie where a a black cop was so mad a black woman( Kerry Washington, one of the go to girls for these roles) married a white guy he went viral.

All the interracial couples I know moved in to mainly black neighborhoods and had no problems, but when they moved to white neighborhoods they did. One of my friends was asked to do someones yard work. People would come to the house and ask for the woman of the house. Their kids were picked on. So that movie portrayed a unrealistic scene.

Now my question to you is, why no big white actresses with black men buy a whole lot of black women with white men? While in reality it is usually white women and black men so why the opposite in movies?

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And I agree totally with what you said but I must say though I think people have a hard time seeing white men with black women too but to a lesser extent. I think people not wanting to see big named white actresses with black men has to do with the majority of people that they feel go and view movies which are white people. There are a large number of whites who don't want to see that sort of interracial coupling on screen.


Even through out history sex with black women was perfectly fine but sex between WW and BM was totally forbidden and I think that has something to do with the entertainment industry being ran by mostly white males. Look at the movie Birth of a Nation one of he biggest fears the white males had in that movie was the rape of their women by black males. It also goes in to the how society as a whole views white women they are seen more as something pure and ideal and to see them paired with the opposite of what they are perceived to stand for would degrade them. Plus I think a lot of white actresses might fear their career ending by doing something that daring even if they were totally for it.


Black males also don't like to see black women on screen with white men look at how much flack Halle got from them after Monster's Ball came out and how much flack Kerry gets for her show Scandal from black men. It all goes back to the history of the two races together and people not truly being able to look past their preconceived notions about the other race.

Also keep in mind people don't particularly like to see black men and black women making love on screen either or even the black body naked.

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I agree with your points too. But here is a new one. This has to tell us something is not right. There is a new movie coming out named Addicted. It is about some black woman cheating on her husband. Now in the book the man she cheated with was a black man, but in the movie they changed it to a white man. I am sick of white mans insecurities about black masculinity popping up in movies. You know the old adage , black men are suppose to be more endowed and better in bed. In this movie it emasculates and cuckolded the black man by saying, you really aren't anything, white men got it all and cheating on him. And the black man she is cheating on is Boris Kedjoe, heck it wasn't like he was Urkle

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Yes I saw the trailer for this movie and I'm interested in seeing how it plays out. I've seen two other movies that had black women cheating on black men with white men but it's still very uncommon. I've had conversations with black men who have tried to make black women feel inferior to white women by making them seem like we're not as wanted as them or they make white men feel like they aren't man enough for black women which isn't true. I've known plenty of black women who have been with white men and said they were actually better than black men in bed. I think black men fear black women dating white man at the rate they are doing it.

Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it.

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What irks me is that black men have been dating white woman in droves but when they see a black woman dating a white man they are no good and traitors to the black man. They got a lot of nerve. I believe white men have a self esteem problem when it comes to blacks man sexuality and that is why we rarely see white women with black men in movies.

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Then why do you never see Asian men with white women in movies either? They show them even less with white women than they do with black men. And white men/Asian women couples are very common in the real world but rarely do you see them paired up together in movies. Why's that?

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I agree I mentioned somewhere it is ALL women of color. and I apologize for not mentioning it here . but just look up my old posts about this and I say all women of color. You will see a Asian women take her clothes off for white men in movies but rarely the opposite. And I think it is for the same reason. These white men running Hollywood have sexual fantasies about women of color, so they play it out on the screen. And again it emasculates the man.

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Rarely do they depict Asian women with white men on screen. And the vast majority of American white men, quite honestly, do not have sexual fetishes or fantasies for black women. Now of course you will most definitely find those who do have a preference and/or fetish for them but, as a whole, black women are often considered to be the least desirable race of women to the majority of white men. I have even heard that this particular view also extends to black men as well, but I obviously can't speak on that as being fact. Now Asian women are considered to be much more desirable to white men than black women are no doubt about it but again, it's certainly not the majority.

The majority of white men prefer white women just as the majority of black women prefer black men. So I myself have extremely little interest in seeing WM/BF couples being depicted on screen just for the mere sake of it.

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And exactly how do you know how the majority of white men feel? Do you know the majority of white men?

Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it.

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Good to see that IMDB is still the place to come if you need to read some utter nonsense. How could you possibly know what the vast majority of U.S White men
are in to?


I Sympathise with Lars Von Trier.

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So you feel that the majority of white men are into black women? I think that you're very much mistaken if you do. Now you are very much correct in that I cannot speak for ALL white men, but from my expierence in as far as what I've heard personally and from the various polls and surveys that have been conducted throughout the years on this particular topic, the majority of white men prefer white women first, Asian women next and then black women. And what exactly is so terrible and wrong about that I ask? You can also see it in the percentage of interracial relationships in which WM/BF couples are the least common type and amount in comparison to the interracial unions between other races. There are more WM/BF couples no doubt about it, but their still among the least common type of IRs.

And I also can't help but point out the fact that you're taking me to task for saying that the majority of white men don't prefer black women when you yourself originally posed the question if it's true that ALL white women who say they're not attracted to black men are lying, and then preceded to ask if the same holds true for white men's view of black women.


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I've dated white men so saying the majority of white men don't find black women attractive just isn't true. We have no way of knowing this my point is even if you were to say the majority of white men are in to black women I would ask you the same question. How can you speak for a whole race of men? Are you a white man?

Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it.

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Why don't you search around and see what you find, especially when it comes to online dating. Just because my post isn't PC doesn't mean that it's completely untrue:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/04online

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I'm sorry, but simply because you've dated white men does not automatically disprove my statement that the majority of white men are not attracted to black women. And I believe I also stated that white men DO of course go with black women, just not the majority of them.

I am a white guy and though, like I said before, I certainly cannot speak for ALL white men, I've still been able to make the observation throughout the years that the stated preference for the majority of white men is not black women. It's more than it used to be for sure, but certainly not at the level it is with white, Asian and Hispanic women(mostly white or Mexican).

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I'm a white man and I prefer black women over white or any other race. Not for any rational/irrational reason, it's just what I'm attracted to. My best friend prefers Asians (he's also white) and so forth...I actually think that line in the movie is kind of BS because I've met people (of both genders) who have all kinds of different preferences. There is no logical blanket statement that can be made about 'all white men/women' or 'all black men/women' preferences imo.

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i don't think there is any universal truth on the subject.
to say they are all lying who deny it, goes way too far.

however, i think the vast MAJORITY of people, WILL have particular standouts from ANY race, that they will be attracted to. even the most racist people.

for people on the far end of that spectrum, they may only see 2 or 3 in their lifetime that they are attracted to.

while me, being on the other end of the spectrum, generally find a higher percentage of black women attractive than i do for white women.

and while a lot of it might have to do with appearance, personalities are another significant element for me. for whatever reason i tend to get along with black people better.

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