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Mac/Mary Sue: In the interests of gender equality

posted 8 years ago by mitchegk
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So we all hate Skye that established. Mostly because she is a Mary Sue and theres nothing the writers cant stop her from doing.

But what irritating me is that Mac is becoming the male version. Were short on lead cast so they just have him do everything. He was just a mechanic and now hes: Director private security, soldier, enforcer, spy and even a bloody ghost rider!

[–] knightfall182 8 years ago

Difference is Mac has like 20+ years of experience and training.

So it's believable.

He's 46.

[–] crankycanadian 8 years ago

Uh yeah as a MECHANIC???

Ain't no circus like an Andy Serkis

[–] Deadpool_vs_theLeprecorn 8 years ago

So we all hate Skye that established.

I don't hate her. She and Coulson are my favorite characters.

[–] koosvanwinden 8 years ago

somewhat of a problem for me as well. He was a funny but flawed character in S2, taking a different side to coin on different subjects. For that I liked his behaviour wrt to the robots again.

I was pissed that Daisy considered him to be the person who would watched your back. He was not that person to her when she became an Inhuman. And it is extremely disrespectfull to the people who actually did watch her back at all times: Fitz and Coulson.

[–] TylerFX 8 years ago

The male equivalent of a Mary Sue is called a Gary Stu.

Honestly, I like Mac. I never really noticed all of that until it was pointed out lol.

[–] Gjie_Nath 8 years ago

He's kind of a guy who's negative about everything. I don't care how sexy he is, I'm not date that kind of guy.

[–] Valcoran 8 years ago

So we all hate Skye that established. Mostly because she is a Mary Sue and theres nothing the writers cant stop her from doing.

That's one hell of a blanket statement. No, we all don't hate Daisy. I'm not sure how you can say she's a Mary Sue, she spent the whole first half of this season on a highly self-destructive path, and multiple other characters called her out on that behavior. It took someone with even more problems, possessed by a demon from hell, to get her back on a more constructive course.

[–] bustedbrain16 8 years ago

someone with even more problems, possessed by a demon from hell

Daisy, as a character, has been facing her own demons throughout the series; from going from "power to the people" style hacker to government agent, to learning her father was a monster, to learning she was an Inhuman, to having her boyfriend die, to becoming a wanted terrorist. This gives her a lot of depth that makes her very likeable...but at the same time makes you want to think they need to do more character development on the others, a little tired of her.
I really don't like what they did with Mack this episode trying to round him out as a character, having him visit his ex for their dead daughter's birthday...I'm sure they did it to make him seem more caring while developing the relationship between him and Yo-yo, but they should have left it in their relationship. The "special clause if death by robot in his life insurance" Mack from last week was much better.

[–] Valcoran 8 years ago

Oh I know, she's had to deal with a hell of a lot in the brief few years she's been a part of SHIELD. She's always been one of the primary focus characters, of course, but I'd say the others have gotten a decent amount of development. May's past and the stuff with her ex-husband being a monstrous Inhuman, Fitz and Simmons with their relationship, Fitz's trauma in season 2, Simmons' trauma during and after spending however many months on Maveth, Bobbi and Hunter's past together...

Getting a little off track, though. Honestly, I'm not sure what to make of this new information with Mack yet, as I have no idea where they're going with it yet. Too early to say.

[–] Ellie8888 8 years ago

So we all hate Skye that established. Mostly because she is a Mary Sue and theres nothing the writers cant stop her from doing.

I think you're mixing her with Felicity Smoak..

[–] MichaelScoffield 8 years ago

Amen to that.

[–] MichaelScoffield 8 years ago

I love Skye. She's one of my top three favorite characters on the show. I also love Mack. He's badass. I'm not bothered by either of them being Mary Sue's. It just means they're awesome. Why wouldn't they be? They're some of the best agents of the best spy agency in the world.