This show was really good.
Why all the complaining?
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Critics of the series breakdown into three distinct groups.
1) Misogynists and Racists: They are not interested in a female lead and worst a white female with a black boyfriend. Most of these didn't make it through the first episode and died a little bit when they heard it got a second season.
2) The blindsided: They knew nothing about the character and arrived believing Jessica was maybe like Electra, Xena or something similar to like a female Lobo from DC. Basically a party hard take no *beep* alpha woman. Considering this teaser these folks are somewhat victims of false advertising.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw7lAFlCSlY
The series wasn't anything like this.
3) The disappointed: people that understood the huge emotional and psychological potential be reduced to 13 hours of people in one note misery repeating scenes. These people fully expected to love the show but couldn't but were happy to hear of season 2 to give it a second chance.
Considering this teaser these folks are somewhat victims of false advertising.
Well, there's the drinking, the black wardrobe and the a$$ kicking female, it seems pretty accurate to me other than the rock music. Unless they expected a barroom brawl every week. I suppose the teaser is more humorous than the actual show.
one note misery repeating scenes
The show is definitely DARK but I didn't mind that. It probably helped that I'm unfamiliar with the source material, and had no expectations going in. To me, it was a nice change from a more traditional superhero with lots of one-liners and no real sense of horror.
Really my only complaint was that the gang had chances to end the bad guy that weren't taken, in order to continue the storyline through the season. For example, why not just kill him when he's captured, instead of imprisoning and videotaping him? I know Jessica wanted to get Hope out of prison, but which is worse, one person in jail or all the damage Kilgrave caused by staying alive? It's not like she really knew Hope, anyway, they weren't friends or anything for her to feel such loyalty. And even if they had filmed him doing his mind control thing, any defense attorney would claim the movie was faked, or filmed as a joke, which would be more believable to a jury than the truth. And then why tell the group forced to hang themselves in the restaurant, not to report the truth to the police? If they're trying to convince everyone, including the police, that Kilgrave could control people, the more people testifying to that, the better.
But, not a huge deal to me since these shows always require some stretches of logic, and he was such a great villain I was glad he stayed around.
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My two major uh oh moments were...
1) Kilgrave was recued from the van by the security team with the cattle prods.
I thought Oh *beep* this mother******* is going to set it off!😨
And nothing happened. It was just one of many RESETS(capture and release)
2) The Jessica flashback before she encountered Kilgrave. He personality was exactly the same as after. Worse as a teenager she had the same difficult nasty tone. WTF??? Where the heck is the character arch? That's not PTSD that was her natural state!
The only character to take a journey i.e. be interesting was Carrie-Anne Moss/Jeri Hogarth she changed by the end but she was merely supporting cast.
Worse as a teenager she had the same difficult nasty tone.
Well, that's pretty accurate for a teenager  and most of her flashbacks were after her family was killed. She felt responsible, I would expect that could be even more traumatic than Kilgrave, which wasn't in any way her fault. So maybe we never saw her without PTSD (except for the few minutes fighting with her brother, which again the nastiness was typical for a teen sibling.) That doesn't mean that Kilgrave didn't affect her even further, though. Have you read the comics, was she supposed to be a more cheerful and positive person before?
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Have you read the comics,
Yes.
was she supposed to be a more cheerful and positive person before?
Very much so!
She more like Trish.
That's called basic fiction writing 101.
It's not the job of the audience to make the story be interesting or make sense.
If it's character driven then the character has an arch.
If it's action driven then stuff happens.
Imagine an action film were nothing happens and the audience has to say things like well maybe we never saw the hero do anything but that doesn't mean he didn't. That sucks. share
Hmm, well, again it wasn't something that bothered me. They only spent a few seconds here and there on the flashbacks of her past self, so it's not like a large part of the story. They also may not have wanted to confuse the audience that it was the same character, by portraying her too differently! IMO her developing feelings (therefore vulnerability) for Luke and friends like Trish and Hope were more important, and a sign that her character will undergo more emotional shift in future seasons. Also some characters have trademark personality types that remain constant, for example Batman (and Jessica) is dark and brooding, Iron Man is cocky and wise-cracking, Superman a wholesome idealist, etc. I don't need to see that Batman used to be cheerful in order to think that the story is interesting. Maybe he was before his parents died, we never see any more in movies but flashbacks of them being attacked in the alley.
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Liked the show but the inconsistencies threw me off...SPECIALLY with Cage. I mean, on the trailer for his series he is covered with bullet goles yet has a "bring it on!" Attitude, while here a shot in the chin leaves him near death. I mean...serioulsy??
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His skin is unbreakable but he's not invulnerable. They explained pretty clearly that the shotgun blast essentially gave him a concussion. His brain rattled around in his unbreakable head.
It's not an inconsistency - just viewers making incorrect assumptions.
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Are you kidding?? If you tell me that they hitted him with a wrecking ball, granted. But a shot in the head?? Even if its a shotgun there's not enough force to do such damage. So by your standard every time he bumps his head very hard he ends in the hospital? Ridiculous.
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Even if its a shotgun there's not enough force to do such damage. So by your standard every time he (Luke Cage) bumps his head very hard he ends in the hospital? Ridiculous.
Exactly!
Luke wasn't stunned allowing Jessica to get away.
He wasn't unconscious with a mild concussion.
The bulletproof black man was comatose with a fatally swelling brain. LMFAO
That's kinda like having Aqua Man drown.
But the show wasn't about Luke Cage at all it was about Jessica and Kilgrave
It might be best to forget everything you learned about Luke here and watch Luke Cage with a completely open mind. share
Er, there is a difference between a shotgun blast right up against his chin and a "bump on the head".
Again, there's nothing special about his brain or internal organs. His skin is unbreakable and he's strong - that's all.
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The hit to the head was like a normal person wearing a Kevlar vest. The Kevlar may stop the bullet, but it won't absorb the impact force of the bullet.
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One more question for the shotgun headshot defenders (Spoilers ahead)
What the hell should have done the missile Cottonmouth shot at Luke on his series?? Why a shotgun headshot is more concussive than a goddamn missile????
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Have you ever not been called an idiot in your life? Cause if that's so that might be a statistical miracle. You've proven yourself to be very dumb so far.
Your criticism is objectively incorrect. People have provided evidence and reasoning for this for heaven's sake. If you still think your criticism is valid, you're not magically validating the notion, you're simply factually inccorect. Physics agrees with Luke getting hurt by the shot gun blast. A bazooka explosion spreads the pressure more widley, so it's no concentrated on his internal organs. Why is this so difficult to grasp for you?
Officially Canadian for 27 years. Never heard "aboot."
How about you wrap a bullet proof vest around your head and I'll shoot it with a shotgun.... see how you feel after that. It shocks me that there are people as stupid as you in the world. "Shotgun blast at point blank range to the head? No big deal!".
shareOf course, Judas rounds can bypass that and render that whole analogy moot.
shareIt's not like she really knew Hope, anyway, they weren't friends or anything for her to feel such loyalty.
I think Jessica identified with Hope on an emotional level. By trying to save Hope, she was trying to save the part of herself that she saw in Hope. "It's not your fault." Which is what Jessica's sister said to Jessica earlier. share
Nyc? Let me guess.... Williamsburg? You sjw, nazi progressive twat.
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