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Jessica and Kilgrave's control (spoilers)


Do we know why she was able to break loose of his mind control?

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It's heavily implied to be the result of some sort of 'jolt' caused by the shock from killing Reva.

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I figured it was around that time but not a good enough explanation for me haha. :/

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He is a Virus.

She has a very fast metabolism and healing factor; healing broken bones in a day.

She built up an immunity to the Kilgrave Virus. That's why when he made it stronger it still didn't matter, her time with him immunized her.

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It is never clarified and in fact none of the characters in the show "know" either.

The most common assumption is that her prolonged exposure to him (more than any other single person as far as we know) combined with her powers allowed her to build an immunity of sorts. The act of killing Reva was the straw that broke the camel's back but she likely would have become immune in time without that. The fact that she doesn't realize she's immune indicates that it was gradual and natural and not some heroic single act (i.e. that the one shocking event didn't result in her saying "enough").

I also like to imagine that there's some twisted irony plaguing Kilgrave as well. In his warped mind, he thinks he loves Jessica so perhaps subconsciously he's not able to control her. That doesn't really stand scrutiny and certainly isn't backed up in any way by what we see in the show - that's 100% just something I thought up that serves as a nice "screw you" to Kilgrave.

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Who cares?

Any Super-Villain who's "powers" can be beaten by anyone wearing earbuds and listening to loud music, isn't much of a Super-Villain.

This show sucks.

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Except that earbuds are not a solution on their own.

Kilgrave can command people nearby to harm themselves, each other or rip the earbuds off the person. Jessica even seems to think Kilgrave might be able to command without his voice (i.e. simply mime the action of removing the earbuds). She is after all the person who knows him best and spent the most time under his control.

Not saying you have to like the show of course, but curious that you're on this board if you hated it so much.

Kilgrave is not a "super villain" anyway. He's basically a serial rapist and abusive person who happens to have a power that makes him especially dangerous.

But hey, why look beyond the surface right?

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Kilgrave can command people nearby to harm themselves, each other or rip the earbuds off the person. Jessica even seems to think Kilgrave might be able to command without his voice (i.e. simply mime the action of removing the earbuds). She is after all the person who knows him best and spent the most time under his control.


Most earbuds don't even cancel out all sound. If anything, all Kilgrave would have to do is shout his commands and you can just say adieu to that option.

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Or a lull in whatever music the person has on etc.

I still think his powers can't be limited to his voice being heard anyway. I think it's more the victim "knowing" what Kilgrave wants and they want it to. I know this is not explained in the show either way, but it seems more plausible that the pheromone/virus/infection basically makes the victim want what Kilgrave wants. So when he expresses it, they feel compelled to do it. The support group discussions in the early episodes spoke about "I wanted it too". Even the guy who abandoned his young child said something like "At that moment I wanted to leave my son".

Also when Jessica convinces Simmons and later Trish that they've completed the command it's more semantics about "Kilgrave got what he wanted so you don't need to want it anymore". She tricks Simmons into thinking he jumped off the roof and then shakily convinces him that was all that Kilgrave wanted. It's almost like you can see on Simmons' face something where he's trying to decide if that was all Kilgrave wanted since logically Kilgrave probably didn't want Simmons to survive. The whole Trish skull bullet thing has been discussed to death but to me Jessica's strong relationship with Trish allowed her to convince Trish that she didn't need to "want" to put a bullet in her head anymore since she'd done just that.

So while speech is the quickest and easiest way to express commands, it's not the only way.

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So while speech is the quickest and easiest way to express commands, it's not the only way.


Yeah, I wish the series had dwelled more on if Kilgrave could control someone by text message, or over a Skype chat, etc.

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