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How did Daniels know she needed to use the airlock to kill the xenomorph?

posted 8 years ago by thebricks (292)
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Seems odd, yes, I THINK she knew the thing had acid for blood, but not that it could eat through the hull. That's all something she would have to learn by herself again. I just wonder why he went for the airlock so quickly this time, like she watched the other Alien movies?

Kind of lazy film making, not even developing the plot and characters properly, just assuming everyone knows what is going on. If this were my first Alien movie, I would have been slightly confused. Remember, my first Alien movie was Resurrection, but I think it was established how powerful the acid was, at least.

Everything about the film did seem lazy, to be honest.

[–] willjbeau (726) 8 years ago

What do you mean, how did she know? It's basic logic. Shooting at it with guns risks damaging the ship. You don't have to know anything about the creature to know that. The airlock purge is the safest way to get rid of any uninvited guest on a spaceship.

[–] thebricks (292) 8 years ago

The idiot that blew the transport shuttle up at the beginning didn't have "basic logic"...don't act like these characters just turned into Rhodes Scholars at the end of the movie! Ridley used the airlock in 1, 2 and 4 because she had no choice. In this movie, it seems like Daniels is a big fan of Alien and has watched it a million times and knows what to do. It's BS. She had no idea their acid blood could eat through the hull.

[–] whatwazdat (418) 8 years ago

Daniels was higher ranking, actually became Captain after the death of Oram, right? So it's believable she would possess more "basic logic" and is more composed than the one who frantically blew up the shuttle. But you also have to take into consideration the element of surprise. Maybe Daniels would shoot up the joint as well if the damn thing was in the same room as her. But she was at a safe distance, actually woken up by MOTHER, right? She had time to think.

[–] [deleted] 8 years ago

Are we playing mental gymnastics already?

Goodie!

I've not seen the film but I'm sure I can account for their behaviours if asked :)

[–] thebricks (292) 8 years ago

Basic logic? More like you saw the other Alien movies and know how to fight an Alien. STFU, seriously. Hate talking to stupid kids like you who lack any sort of perspective.

If you were in a situation like this, you would have shot the thing and realized the acid would have torn through the hull and screwed yourself. Please. They failed to establish how powerful the xenomorph's blood was and having her decide to use the airlock first thing IS a plot hole and bad writing.

[–] whatwazdat (418) 8 years ago

And you are the "authority" on perspective. I think you're more concerned with keeping your "she watched Alien movies" joke a live than to consider other perspectives. Talk about "stupid kids."

[–] thebricks (292) 8 years ago

Is English your second language?

[–] Dallas (304) 8 years ago

By the time the end of the movie comes, she knows they bleed acid from fighting them. Remember she crushed the alien with the big grappling thingy? Crushed it and it's acid blood spurted everywhere. Chick at the beginning had no clue, and was obviously panicking like fuck. So she gets a pass for being dumb. The writers do not get a pass. Because that chick wouldn't be anywhere near an expedition like this. It would all alpha douchebags.

[–] Terrygg (544) 8 years ago

Blowing the alien out into space seems like the easiest solution.

[–] whatwazdat (418) 8 years ago

But that doesn't go well with thebricks "she watch other alien movies" joke. I think he's hurt we're not all rolling on the floor laughing.

[–] Terrygg (544) 8 years ago

I really don't think it's funny to make fun of a movie all because you don't like the science fiction genre.

[–] Blackbeard (154) 8 years ago

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[–] thebricks (292) 8 years ago

Lack of critical thinking skills? Wow, pulling the fucking Rhode Scholar act, are we? I'm talking about the plot development of this movie, you fucking nerd. It was horrible and the jump in her logic to "we have to use the airlock" felt artificial and fake.

Oh, and, you'd be dumb for shooting at the alien, huh? So if it's running straight at you, what are you going to take your chances on doing, shooting it or going for the airlock, jackass? You're one of those types that talks big but is too fat to actually go out and do anything and be realistic.

[–] Dallas (304) 8 years ago

Once again, she had just crushed an alien and saw what its blood did. For all the movies plot holes, this isn't one.

[–] thebricks (292) 8 years ago

Why was it so hard for the other autistic pieces of shit to bring that up? Even then, I still thought the ending was a bit rushed.

If they were so intelligent, why couldn't they bring this up without being complete assholes about it? They didn't even remember the crane scene, ROFLMAO. So, if it never existed, I would have been totally right.

[–] Dallas (304) 8 years ago

I have no idea, it's the internet lol. I think what willjbeau might have meant was you don't want to shoot at it because you're in space and don't wanna fuck up your hull. Which is fair point if that's what he meant. Nothing ends a trip through space like big bullet holes in the sides of the ship lol.

[–] whatwazdat (418) 8 years ago

You are treated the way you treat people. Read my very first post in this thread. In no way am I being disrespectful to you. But you responded with childish things like STFU, stupid kids, etc. Then you wonder why the "autistic" people are being assholes to you.

[–] thebricks (292) 8 years ago

Just go away. Fuck off.

[–] Blackbeard (154) 8 years ago

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[–] thebricks (292) 8 years ago

You ARE a fucking idiot and to compensate for that, your feeble insult to everyone is accusing them of being a "Rhoad Scholar" (you probably don't even know what that means... and incidentally, I actually was! Studied at Oxford thanks to it.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodes_Scholarship

Imagine this, a RHODES Scholar who spells it "Rhoad"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FUCKING HILARIOUS!!!!!!!

How to make yourself look like a total lying dumbfuck in one post!!!

You don't even have your GED dude. Come clean. I'd delete my account if I were you, you've embarrassed yourself enough for one day, ROFLMAO. This has made my day!

[–] Blackbeard (154) 8 years ago

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[–] thebricks (292) 8 years ago

You got exposed pretty badly, dude. Autocorrect wouldn't fix the spelling of Rhodes Scholar to "Rhoad." Nice try.

You're mentally ill, seek help. Had a brother like you. I see all the red flags. If you're going to make up stuff about your life, learn how to spell and use proper grammar first.

Also, only an uneducated idiot from the ghetto would ever assume most people don't know anything about the Rhodes Scholarship program. I wouldn't even insult your intelligence by accusing you of not knowing what it is.

[–] Benjobuff (406) 8 years ago

This is like alien five six or seven depending on how you count. If this is your first alien movie you are an idiot. It's like at least the fifth sequel

[–] thebricks (292) 8 years ago

NO SHIT.

[–] Benjobuff (406) 8 years ago

Lol. So your OP is meaningless. They don't need to explain Jedi in every Star Wars. They don't need to explain the acid in the sixth alien

[–] Dallas (304) 8 years ago

Dude, you missed the point big time. Just stop before you make a bigger fool of yourself.

[–] Benjobuff (406) 8 years ago

How can you make a fool of yourself on an anonymous website with almost no viewers

[–] Dallas (304) 8 years ago

well, for one thing you'll know. You made a mistake in your reading of comments, is your plan really to double down on your mistake rather than just admit it and move on? Is life really that dull?

[–] Benjobuff (406) 8 years ago

Mistake? No. I find a few flaws with the movie but the acid was handled fine

[–] Dallas (304) 8 years ago

Yes, but what you said is not the point he was making. He was talking about the characters not knowing about the acid for blood, not the audience. He forgot about the crane, which is all anyone had to say. I dont really see the need to jump up his ass because he forgot about one thing. He didnt try to side step it, as soon as it was brought up he realised his mistake. Why no one just said that, instead of attacking him I dont know.

[–] thebricks (292) 8 years ago

You have to remember, most of these boards are full of fat, unemployed nerds and shills looking to get promoted out of their shit job.

I didn't even read his post properly. I understand now that he said that the audience should understand the acid thing in this movie because it's the umpteenth Alien movie. That is true, however, these characters didn't know that until the crane scene, but you never connect with them enough to believe that they recognize or fear that this thing's blood can go through the hull. Daniels really does act like Ellen Ripley, not a colonist that's out of her depth.

That was my point.

[–] Dallas (304) 8 years ago

Youre spot on about the character development. Its shockingly bad. They are little more than alien fodder with a hashtag number next to them. So far the best sequel to alien after aliens is the diner scene near the end of spaceballs. The alien there had more character development than anyone in this movie.

[–] thebricks (292) 8 years ago

I had thought about why people thought Alien Resurrection was so bad. That was the first Alien movie I'd ever watched. I hadn't even realized that the acid blood in that movie was ridiculously toned down. In Alien 1, you saw this stuff could go through the hull. By Aliens, it lightly burned anything it touched. By Alien Resurrection, it was inconsistent. Sometimes the acid would burn through the floor, other times, it would just burn characters and be the end of that.

I can't recall, but at no point do you see any of the crew say, "What the fuck, that thing's blood is dangerous as fuck. What do we do?"

That is character and plot development that was missing in this movie. The writer was self-aware and not looking through Daniels and Tennessee's POV.

[–] Volley (3433) 8 years ago

Any living creature can't survive in the vacuum of space, that's why the airlock is sought after.

[–] ArnoldFord (57) 8 years ago

I believe it was foreshadowed as she was the one who inspects the vehicles in the airlock.