Does this movie explain where the black goo from Prometheus came from?
or if the xenomorph from Prometheus turn out to be a queen?
shareThe black goo is explained in Prometheus as a biological weapon designed by the Engineers who set out to experiment with the universe by starting life, and ending life when or if experiments would get out of hand. Something happened on Earth 2000 years ago, which warranted our destruction. Luckily something went wrong and the order of execution was never sent... Covenant seem only to support that this black goo is a weapon of mass destruction, and is used as such here too.
The final Xenomorph looking Alien in Prometheus was not a Xenomorph and its faith is still not known. I think it still runs around down there... However, Covenant does explain and tell us about the dawn of the actual Xenomorph we know from the original stories. And it puts in a very interesting spin.
I must have missed that. Which scene explains that the black goo is a biological weapon?
shareFair point. Imo this is how the black goo is ultimately explained as we go through the move and learn how the Engineers planned to eradicate earth with it. The Engineers are shown using it for creation, and destruction when we witness their plan with Earth. And in any case this is cemented in Covenant, when's David explaines it to us as such.
shareThere is a difference between making a conclusion based upon what happens in the plot and creating a theory based upon whatever you want.
I think I understand why the popular theory about the Engineers self sacrificing themselves came from. People are confused about the story and plot of the film. They are taking pieces of dialog and certain scenes out of context of it's original place in the film. I have no idea what is wrong with these people either. Makes no sense at all.
I need to delete this thread because I have already figured out (on my own by rewatching the film in its entirety again) what that black goo was and where it came from.
"I need to delete this thread because I have already figured out (on my own by rewatching the film in its entirety again) what that black goo was and where it came from."
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There is a distinction between the first Engineer and the later ones. The first one is dressed like a monk and he comes from a spaceship of a considerable different design. I think Scott did this to show us that they are not of the same kin. The latter ones are of a military purpose, and the first seem to be a life starter. So, in a sense they are their yin and yang to each other.
Why would this distinction be relevant? Well, the black goo is different. The first one ignited life, I assume on earth. The cgi show us pretty much DNA in the making, and not in the unmaking. Beautifully illustrated.
The black goo on LV-223 is from a different kin and so also nature. A war kin, as it acts violently and destructive on each encounter. Though indeed it also creates as you mention, but it creates aggression and further destruction.
These, dare I call it facts, speak against your "food" rationale. Or at least it shows that they are perhaps not the same black goo. I rather see it as though these beings operate on a biological level; be it for terraforming, or terror destruction.
In Alien Covenant, it is however clearly narrated to be for chemical warfare. This of course can be attributed to David misunderstanding its deeper purpose, but nothing in the movie seem to point to such doubt. In addition, here it is used freshly out of the jar on a different planet, with an atmosphere favorable to the Engineers (and to humans), and still it acts destructively - so not supporting that part of your rationale either.
In short, I cannot adhere to your “food” rationale. None the less, thank you for sharing your idea.
Whatever. Who cares anymore. I'm tired of wasting my time with crazy people.
Or, the Earth ship was for long distance travel and the one Shaw and David escape on was for shorter distances.
shareThe original black goo was in a bowl type container. The 'war' goo was sealed in a glass looking jar.
sharewhen the captain is talking to Shaw.
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I'm actually going back to what Shaw says about there being an outbreak when she is doing the analysis of what happened to the Engineers on that planet. It makes more sense than self sacrifice. I understand why people think that sacrifice was involved because David said some crazy things. But when you think about how those Engineers were the first humans and how living things need to eat, and that Dr. Shaw mentions how their presence in that cargo bay was effecting the atmosphere and later she says she thinks there was an outbreak, then you see the insectlike worm in contact with that food. But it changed into something else. The contaminated food didn't kill the insect. But it does kill the Engineers. We do see that the contaminated food has the capacity to mutate organic organism too.
The point is that,
Every living organism needs to eat and those Engineers were traveling through different galaxies landing onto different planets. It makes sense that they needed food on their long trip. That was why all those containers in the cargo hold had black stuff in them. In the beginning we see that Engineer calmly drinking and then looking surprised that he got sick from the food.
In other movies about astronaunts in space, they process their food into a liquid form. It makes sense that the Engineers were actually scientists on a journey to find another suitable home for themselves. They found Earth which was suitable for their survival. They wouldn't purposely kill themselves once they got to their destination.
There is always this assumption that it is a weapon and not something else that just wasn't understood.
An Engineer created humans when sacrificing itself by drinking some of the goo on earth, disintegrating and thus creating humans who eventually travel to the stars to meet their makers.
We don't know what David said to the living Engineer to anger him so much that he would want to destroy humans. He didn't seem too pissed off before then.
The assumption is because Earth showed up in their hologram means they were heading to there to destroy it, but they left a map to that exact location so of course Earth would be the main center of the projection. They probably have many other bases, where they wait for whatever planet they seeded with their dna to 'grow up' and return to them.
My theory of what happened is that the Engineers based themselves on that moon because they never expected there to be any other life form there because the goo was never meant to interact with any other species other than themselves (because they knew how destructive it was). They didn't know about those worms, which interacted with the goo causing whatever problem that caused the Engineers to run away down the corridor. The same thing must have happened to them as happened to the Prometheus crew.
Just because the substance was destructive didn't mean that was what they intended it for (unless the experiment turns bad), which is what the Engineer must have assumed based on what David said to him.
Whatever David said can't be trusted because he wanted to become a creator/destroyer himself. That doesn't mean to say the Engineers were like him. We still don't know what the Engineers were up to (other than creation) and why. If that wasn't their home planet in Covenant then the storyline may yet still be resolved.
Space Jockey still has to be explained (unless that was another trap set by a future dying David).