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Del Toro's vision?

posted 8 years ago by StephenMalovski
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The Battle of the Five Armies was the best animated movie of 2014! And the CGI was so heavyhanded, the whole movie was filled with it, however it didn't looked that bad but the over abundance of it made me feel like I was watching an animated movie cause Peter Jackson was too lazy to shoot on location he had to do the whole three films in a studio!
Since I saw it I wonder what if Guilermo Del Toro directed them! Would he filmed more stuff on location and not rely so much on CGI?! I would prefer to see the Hobbit directed by Del Toro instead of Pacific Rim, Mama or Crimson Peak! Now we would still probably get these films but maybe little bit later!
My other biggest problems with this Trilogy were the cliffhanger in the second film (cause clearly this film started with the ending of Desolation of Smaug), The including of Legolas (a smaller part would be fine) as one the main characters in the 2nd and 3rd film and the senseless love story between Kili and Tauriel!

[–] otter 8 years ago

I have to assume that Del Toro would have done a better job, because the finished films are so dreadful that I have to assume that my cat who gets lost on the cat tree would have done a better job.

And say this even after having seen "Crimson Peak", a monumental failure if ever there was one!

“Seventy-seven courses and a regicide, never a wedding like it!

[–] Otaku-sempai 8 years ago

The Battle of the Five Armies was the best animated movie of 2014! And the CGI was so heavyhanded, the whole movie was filled with it, however it didn't looked that bad but the over abundance of it made me feel like I was watching an animated movie cause Peter Jackson was too lazy to shoot on location he had to do the whole three films in a studio!

You exaggerate. There was still plenty of location shooting in the Hobbit films, if not as much as in his LotR movies.

"Hell hath no fury like that of the uninvolved." - T. Isabella

[–] StephenMalovski 8 years ago

I don't know man! I maybe mistaking but I've seen the extras for the first and second hobbit and most of the location shooting looked like was done by the second unit

[–] Otaku-sempai 8 years ago

Well, whether or not Jackson was physically present, off the top of my head there was: Hobbiton; the Lone-lands; Beorn's house; parts of the barrel-ride; the shore of Long Lake; and Dale.

Both Jackson and del Toro are very hands-on directors, though I think that, these days, del Toro is more dedicated to using practical effects.

"Hell hath no fury like that of the uninvolved." - T. Isabella

[–] otter 8 years ago

Still, there was very little sense of New Zealand as Middle Earth, and the "Hobbit" films were the poorer for it.

Of course, the story doesn't have as much scope for scenery as LOTR, because so much of the story takes place underground or in impenetrable forests. But PJ could have and should have used more New Zealand than he did, the whole series of films has a very artificial look.

“Seventy-seven courses and a regicide, never a wedding like it!

[–] lookthisway 8 years ago

I agree ^^

The Mirkwood scene was not long enough or dangerously scary enough. I was hoping for it to be more fairytale-ish.

[–] skoobydoo6789 8 years ago

Looking back, it would've been interesting to see Del Toro's take on Tolkien's classic.