last episode ruined the series for me
i mean wtf everything was wrong
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I was highly disappointed in it too for many reasons. I was very upset no one was at Norma's funeral. She deserved better than that and it's so ridiculous Dylan and Emma or Caleb didn't know she died.
shareSo youre upset that nobody was at her funeral lol. The whole point of the show is that norma and norman are in their own little world so it made perfect sense that only norman was there. Also dylan not finding out is sort of the point since he moved on from his mother. Besides he will find out soon enough
shareExactly. When you consider that Norman didn't tell anyone because he wanted Norma all to himself (he always has), it makes sense.
share100% agree.
Ridiculous to think that Norman was released from the hospital without incident despite his history of mental illness and having been in a psych clinic for 2 weeks just prior to the incident. He's the #1 suspect in the poisoning.
Also ridiculous that they would kill off a main character just like that. The show is going to tank after this.
And how did the rest of the "family" not know about Norma's death? It's not like Alex didn't have contact information...
Sad but oh well.
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Agreed. When a woman ends up "killing herself" two days after her son gets out of a mental institution there is NO WAY the son doesn't look suspicious. And I know,I know "she wrote a letter." The letter stated she would always love Alex "no matter what." The phrase "no matter what" indicates she was thinking about options. Isn't the whole point of suicide that the person sees no other option? Any detective would consider this stuff. Plus you have a reliable witness - a frigging sheriff - saying that her son is crazy and that she was not suicidal.
The show as a whole is very well done, but the execution of Norma's murder was rushed and sloppy. They could have at least done some sort of a six month time jump where Norman is trying to pretend he's cured. He could have killed her and Alex in early season five and they could easily say that it was a murder/suicide executed by Alex since he knew he was about to go to jail and Norma would be charged as an accessory since they had been spending Bob Parises money. Norman getting away with it in this scenario would be a lot more believable.
It wasnt rushed or sloppy....it was terrific. Obviously as a normero shipper you wanted the romance to continue but there was nothing left for norma to do but die and for us to move toward Psycho
shareShipper or no shipper, this is a factual statement:
When a woman ends up "killing herself" two days after her son gets out of a mental institution there is NO WAY the son doesn't look suspicious.
Look, I'm not saying they should've kept Norma alive and had Normero live happily ever after. That's not the show. I'm just saying there are ways they could've written her (and Alex's) deaths where it would've been more believable that Norman would get away with it. share
They wouldn't have been able to hold him on the lack of evidence they had. It doesn't mean as the new season starts, something doesn't come to their attention.
shareHow could you say it's ridiculous to kill off a main character like that? Have you not ever seen Psycho? Since season 1, we already know that at some point, she is going to have to die. This series is about the events that lead us up to the point where Psycho takes place, and THAT character HAS to die at some point. I'm just glad they treated her character with as much respect and dignity as they did.
Her death was sad, but not unexpected. There's no way her character could have lived in order for this series to continue being BATES MOTEL.
I do not think Vera has gone away you know.
As far as the episode being wrong, it was a VERY GOOD episode.
Vera mus have had some trust with Freddie. He does not look that strong and the body manipulations that happened in the digging her up and moving her about looked as if it might hurt. Vera is a real woman so not a rag doll type. I am surprised that she was able to [in fact both of them] get through the settee scene at all and how many takes were there?
If the original has been seen then it helps when this is all unfolding to understand the connections.
Freddie has made this Norman an evil evil being. Vera as Norma has played her as a dual personality so well. Now she will have to be what we know from the movie and the figment of Normans imagination throughout the next series.
The talk about Rhiana. Well she can look good I suppose in this day and age if she is on the run with bank money her colour is of no consequence but in 1960 could she have been a black bank official. I am not from the US o do not know. Were there any black actors in the original movie? I agree that dialogue wise Rhiana should not have much to say but if she is Caleb's plaything the story could be fleshed out giving her more lines. This is not sticking to the original surely? It is inspired by the story and to date I have enjoyed the whole way it has played out. Vera and Freddie have both done well for us. Being so close at times in the script I assume they have a bond of a professional kind.
i think the last episode shouldve been at least 2 or 3 episodes. it was rushed, she died, funeral and dug up in one episode.
shareThe last episode of season 4 is one of the show's best episodes, precisely because it has the courage to engage with the ickiness of the original premise head-on, whereas large sections of the previous seasons had danced around the fact that this is the story of a mentally ill young man who does a terrible thing, can't live with the consequences, and experiences a splintering of his personality.
I only wish they'd gotten down to business sooner.
The last episode was tremendous. It wasnt rushed at all.
shareExactly. Glad to see there are people who actually understand the show's central premise and purpose.
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