After Norman killed Bradley...
...do you feel the show got better or worse?
shareI actually liked Bradley and how she died was awful but season four was also my favorite season by far, so I can't say the show got worse....
shareAre you kidding the show got much better because that was his first kill that they showed happening and it just felt it was a turning point for norman. Which it was. I loved how we saw it all happen from Normans point of view. I hope in season five we see more of pathological jealous norma. For those that have seen psycho remember something that the psychiatrist said at the end to everybody. It may not be an exact quote but it was something like "because he was pathologically jealous of her he assumed that she was as pathologically jealous of him". Well think how true this is in the show and how they have shown it not only with Norman and romero but also in how mother acts in Normans fantasies. Mother does not want any girl to get to close to her Norman baby. I hope in season five we see much more of this to a deeper degree. I hope we see opportunities of Norman almost getting close to a girl or girls and mother flipping out in jealousy and then....... well you know the drill.
The scary clown doll is hiding under my bed.
It was a turning point for Norman, I said that! But it's still a terrible way for someone to die! at least when Marion was stabbed in the shower, Norman was dressed as "Mother" and you couldn't tell who it is!
But Bradley looked into the eyes she still Loved as he bashed her head against a Rock!
It's still a terrible way to die!
However it was a Turning Point for Norman!
Women, can't live with em; So stuff your mother and live with that.(Bullet Tooth 504)
Seriously? Bradley wasn't a nice, fragile girl. Besides her dad's death, she was a total bitch. She's been using Norman like a toy. She knew she had power over him and she didn't hesitate to use it anytime she felt like it. She flirted with Norman and slept with him just to cut him off afterwards, and that whole time she had a boyfriend. So here we have cheating on one boy and brutally playing with the other. Then, when the news about them having sex got out, SHE was angry at HIM. Like she did nothing wrong.
Then after killing her father's murderer (that's the only thing I don't judge her for) she used Norman again. It'd be fine if she never came back. But she did, just because living a fugitive life turned out to be hard. So she decided to use Norman AGAIN, bc she knew he had a soft spot for her. She was bored and wanted a company, someone who can acctually get a job and provide for her and make her feel charished all the time.
She never loved him. Probably didn't even like him, just see him as a tool, someone you can use over and over and he'd allow that as the love sick puppy that he was around her. She didn't care about anyone else but herself.
Bradley was one of the popular girls but she was still nice to Norman and others. Emma even said she was nice. When Emma was telling Norma about Bradley, she said she couldn't hate Bradley (for her looks and popularity) because she was nice.
It's easy to forget that these Bates Motel characters are teenagers. Do you remember what it was like in high school? I don't think they should be judged so harshly.
The scene itself, though grisly, was really well shot and edited with Freddie getting out of the car then the cut to Vera pursuing Bradley and bashing her head against the rock. Poor Bradley. Then the cut back to Freddie kneeling over Bradley's lifeless body with blood on his hands, saying "Mother, what have you done?!" This is one thing that "Psycho" couldn't show us, a murder committed from Norman/Mother's point of view.
shareYes she was nice, but it doesn't change the fact that she saw other people as tools or toys. Lots of terrible people are nice. I think that there's really no rule about popular girls being mean girls (or maybe that is truth in US, I'm from Europe so my experience if different).
Anyway, I think her being nice was mostly an act to get other people to do what she wanted. Idk, maybe I'm judgeing her too harsh, but 1) I really never liked her, 2) I can't believe all the posts about her loving and trusting Norman, when for me it clearly wasn't the case; I think that when he attacked her she didn't feel betrayed, just shocked; I'm suprised other viewers don't judge her at all. We can see her complexity, like every other character on this show she's not black and white, but it also means she's not all white. She's cold, self-absorbed and manipulative, not only pretty, nice and sad.
Yes I agree Bradley did use Norman sometimes. HOWEVER I do feel she felt a connection to him. Her mistake was that she was oblivious to the fact that Norman was not the same boy she knew when she left.
shareAre you kidding the show got much better because that was his first kill that they showed happening and it just felt it was a turning point for norman. Which it was. I loved how we saw it all happen from Normans point of view. I hope in season five we see more of pathological jealous norma. For those that have seen psycho remember something that the psychiatrist said at the end to everybody. It may not be an exact quote but it was something like "because he was pathologically jealous of her he assumed that she was as pathologically jealous of him". Well think how true this is in the show and how they have shown it not only with Norman and romero but also in how mother acts in Normans fantasies. Mother does not want any girl to get to close to her Norman baby. I hope in season five we see much more of this to a deeper degree. I hope we see opportunities of Norman almost getting close to a girl or girls and mother flipping out in jealousy and then....... well you know the drill.
The scary clown doll is hiding under my bed.