I read some posts about it being outrageous that Rihanna is going to be in this TV Series. What does it matter if she's going to be in it?! Bates Motel is a show on it's own, Psycho is a movie and is completely different. They're two different things. If you want to get detailed about the characters, let's look at the Psycho movies for a second, Norma Bates (before she got killed) had long dark hair, Norma Bates in Bates Motel is blonde, yet no one has complained about that. Character changes are to be expected especially when it isn't supposed to be exactly like the original, if this was a Psycho movie remake it would be more understandable to question a black Marion Crane.
I don't care that she's black, and I don't think others do either. I actually think it's important to add diversity to the original cast. What I don't like is that it's the fact that it's blatant stunt casting which I thought this show was above. The writing and the characters make this show watching, not the stars who are in it. As far as I know she hasn't had any acting experience, and she'll be put in there along Vera, Freddie, Nestor, etc who are all incredible.
Who knows, maybe she'll be good. But I hope her star presence doesn't overshadow the story.
I agree, but read some other people's posts, a lot of hardcore fans do care that she's black, yet they claim not to be racist. The show has brought in an A-Lister because they're obviously losing ratings, this is what these American TV Series always do.
While I agree it's stunt casting, I doubt they're that worried about ratings. Their ratings are modest but steady enough, and they've already announced Season 5 as the last. Ratings are only a concern if you're hoping for a renewal. Not their worry now.
I like the Rihanna cast. I love it how unpredictable the show writers sometimes are and for me surprises are mostly always welcome. I am open minded to give Rihanna chance, I haven't seen her acting but I am waiting forward it. It could be interesting result in case if she will be successful in her role.
I agree with the OP too (and always felt this way when I first knew Riri was cast)
I'm not a big fan a Rihanna, but I can see how her music is popular.
We don't know how the character is going to be written - I doubt it will be written exactly like the original movie. That being said, Rihanna may pull off an intriguing character.
And let's face it, Bates Motel is not that popular compared to it's contemporaries Bringing in Rihanna will bring some attention from an audience that would not normally watch the show.
And the people who are already hating the idea of this Marion Crane AREN'T going to stop watching - quite the opposite, they're EAGER to see season 5 and how Riri will handle the character. And this is what casting already knows, well aware of the controversy it may cause.
EDIT: Though, I did just think of something horrible... This Marion Crane twerking & singing work work work work work in the infamous shower scene! ๎ฉ
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Norman Bates kills Marion in the original Psycho because of her likeness to his mother. I don't know about anyone else, but Rihanna has zero resemblance to his mother.
Norman Bates kills Marion in the original Psycho because of her likeness to his mother. I don't know about anyone else, but Rihanna has zero resemblance to his mother.
Okay but they've already changed so many things about the continuity between the film and show; Norma's death for example. Did you complain about that too? I have faith in the writers
Norman Bates kills Marion in the original Psycho because of her likeness to his mother.
No where in the original Psycho movie or book was that ever stated or implied. Marion Crane did not look anything like Norma Bates.
Norman killed Marion because he felt sexually attracted to her. His arousal triggered his "jealous mother" alternate personality, and so he was completely blacked out when he killed her, and "woke up" thinking it was his mother who had done the terrible deed.
Have you seen the movie Psycho, or read the book?
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Norman Bates kills Marion in the original Psycho because of her likeness to his mother.
Not true. In Psycho, Marion (played by Janet Leigh) is a young, attractive blonde while Norma Bates, when we finally see her (or what's left of her), is an older woman whose graying hair is tied back in a bun. There's no resemblance between the two. Go watch the film.
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Norman Bates kills Marion in the original Psycho because of her likeness to his mother. I don't know about anyone else, but Rihanna has zero resemblance to his mother.
The Mother in Normans mind killed Marion Crane for the same reasons she killed Blaire Watson in Bates Motel, jealousy. You have to remember the talk that Marion and Norman had at the start of the film, for one where she suggests Norman put Mother into a home. There's the taking Norman away from her part and then the whole sexual attraction in the peephole is when Mother calls NORMAN! and he puts the picture back over the hole.
For a moment she stood before the mirror set in the door and took stock of herself. Maybe the face was twenty-seven, but the body was free, white, and twenty-one. She had a good figure.
However, factor in the book was written in 1958 and released in 1959 at a time when an African American would not have likely been working as a Secretary in a Real Estate Office. Though now in this age that is not something that would be odd, so if Marion is still said to be working that job it wouldn't make a difference of her ethnicity.
With that out of the way there is no mention in the book or film that Norman was attracted to Mary/Marion because she reminded him of Mother.
Film:
https://sfy.ru/?script=psycho He was never all Norman, but he was often only mother. And because he was so pathologically jealous of her, he assumed she was as jealous of him. Therefore, if he felt a strong attraction to any other woman, the mother side of him would go wild.
When Norman met your sister, he was touched by her... and aroused by her. He wanted her. And this set off his "jealous mother" and... "mother killed the girl." After the murder, Norman returned as if from a deep sleep... and like a dutiful son, covered up all traces of the crime he was convinced his mother had committed.
And the point is, he was getting away with it, until --" Sam hesitated, but Lila finished the sentence for him. "Until Mary came along. And something happened, and he killed her." "Mother killed her," Sam said. "Norma killed your sister. There's no way of finding out the actual situation, but Dr. Steiner is sure that whenever a crisis arose, Norma became the dominant personality. Bates would start drinking, then black out while she took over. During the blackout, of course, he'd dressed up in her clothing. Afterward he'd hide her image away, because in his mind she was the real murderer and had to be protected." "Then Steiner is quite sure he's insane?" "Psychotic that's the word he used. Yes, I'm afraid so. He's going to recommend that Bates be placed in the State Hospital, probably for life." "Then there won't be any trial?" "That's what I came here to tell you. No, there won't be any trial.
Just like in this series with Bradley and Miss Watson, Norman killed as Norma out of pure jealousy that she may lose her son to another.
Which also goes in with the film and Norman killing for other reasons:
(Simon to the Chief of Police) Have you any unsolved missing persons cases on your books?
CHIEF OF POLICE Yes. Two.
SIMON Young girls?
CHIEF OF POLICE (nods, astounded, then:) Did he confess to...
SIMON (interrupting) As I said, the mother...
Again Norman killing 2 young girls who didn't remind him of Mother, there is nothing that suggests in either film or book that was the motive, just the same as the killings in this series have had other motivations, Bradley no resemblance to Mother, nor did Blaire Watson.
Emma's mother (Audrey Ellis) had no resemblance to Norma either and Cody's Father (Jimmy Brennen) obviously not, however Audrey and Jimmy went for similar reasons, so they have set the patterns in this show. Marion can look however the creators want her to look, in the book, film and this series it has been established that Norman as Mother does not kill based on people looking like Mother.
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You are entitled to your feelings about Rihanna, but please be aware, that the Bates Motel casting directors, producers, and rest of the cast do not hold your views. They are looking for someone who will embody the specifics of the character they want to portray on THEIR show.