Black Dahlia


Did anyone else notice that one of the case file photos that Reid has (in episode 4) was of Elizabeth Short aka Black Dahlia who didn't die until 1947.

Bit confused about that being there. Couldn't they have staged a photo? Which victim was this supposed to be representing?

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OMFG, I'm gonna have to look at this now. Are we talking series three... and if so, approx. what time?

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38 minutes through the episode, as the trio are discussing why Matilda had been talking to the boy about various streets/taking him to them and it had been because they had been previously the crime scenes or last places the ripper victims had been seen alive.

Reid gets his casefile on the ripper out and opens it (before they mention it should be burned) and you see somewhere in the bottom left corner (next to "Catherine Edowes" (isn't it Eddowes btw? lol) is a photo of Black Dahlia...and he picks it up, lol.

It REALLY stood out to me, it was obvious because mortuary photography was NOT this crystal clear in 1895 which is roughly when the episode is meant to have taken place I think. You look at the real ripper victims and they are all quite blurry/grainy in the photos with it being hard to determine where some of the damage is done, then there's Elizabeth Short with her "Glasgow smile" in the corner, lol.

At the same time, me and my mother both yelled out "what a min! That's Black Dahlia!" lol.

I actually got a screencap of it...

http://s6.photobucket.com/user/SunraysAndSaturdays/media/imagejpg1_zpsae25b977.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

Can't miss it. ;)


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Yep, that's definitely Elizabeth Short... very well spotted!

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http://s6.photobucket.com/user/SunraysAndSaturdays/media/imagejpg1_zpsae25b977.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

Amazing you can do all that but not make it a working link.

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Good catch. I'm sure they could've staged some fake crime scene photos for the show but I like when TV series/movies hide little things like this in their shows. Maybe the real pics were too blurry and didn't look as good on camera or something, just a wild guess. My favorite hidden thing in movies was the boner scene in little mermaid hahaha

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Yes! I just came here to post this. Gang of idiots sorting props for this programme - I Googled Catherine Eddowes and in the images results, the photo of Elizabeth Short is there for some reason linked via the website of a bloke called Gordon Rutter or something amongst dozens of photos of 20th c crimes - they obviously didn't check and just thought "Ooh, that's the best pic of her" without registering that she had completely different injuries. Raagh!

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These are the actual crime photos for Catherine Eddowes.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wr_8MxLCv9c/UDvp0USm_vI/AAAAAAAAGvE/gXoi-A6Lw-k/s1600/Catherine+eddowes.png

http://whitechapeljack.com/images/jack_the_ripper_victim_catherine_eddowes.jpg

Though, if you do an image search for Catherine Eddowes, the Black Dahlia photo does show up. So I would guess either someone on the production staff screwed up. Or, they wanted a better quality photo than those actually available for Eddowes.


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I'm glad to see that others noticed this (I've just been watching the blu-ray, I didn't see the broadcast episode). They also spelled Eddowes name incorrectly (Edowes).

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At the end of the nineteenth century, public education was spotty at best. It was entirely possible to rise to quite high office without being able to reliably spell anything other than one's own name. One of the greatest challenges in genealogy is identifying relations among a plethora of variant name spellings - not merely in family documents, but in public records as well. It's completely plausible to me that newspapers and police reports of the time would have numerous different spellings; Eddowes, Edowes, Eddoes, anything remotely phonetic could have been passed along the chain without a second glance, and with the obvious attention to atmosphere in this series I'd HOPE they include such details.

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That was my thought, exactly. Variant spellings were the norm.

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