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Why did so many skyscrapers collapse?


Genuinely curious, any idea why so many of them literally crumbled or outright collapsed during the earthquake?

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I liked how the Rock and other people were still able to run normally at the same time the earthquake was shaking skyscrapers to the ground 

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Even in Japan, where skyscrapers and highways are equipped with top-notch high-tech anti-quake technology sometimes they fall down. I don't think that US buildings are so well-prepared.

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It is supposed to be a 9.6 earthquake, the biggest ever recorded. I've got a feeling that if it were to happen IRL in the same area, a lot of those buildings might indeed take a tumble.🐭

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Right. Normaly you would stumble over your own feet very quickly.
But hey,its a popcorn flick.

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I've read that a lot of the buildings there are constructed to only minimum codes of being quake-proof (Japan of necessity has learned a tougher lesson than the US has), and they wouldn't survive a major quake in real life. Maybe not to the point of collapsing completely (jeez, you'd hope not!), but I guess they wanted to make it more visually spectacular for the movie.



You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

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You've obviously never been in an earthquake, it's like being on a boat in rough waters, which can easily tear a building apart. It's quite terrifying actually.

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And why did they tip over... when everyone knows from 9/11 that's not how skyscrapers fall.

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And why did they tip over... when everyone knows from 9/11 that's not how skyscrapers fall.


Seriously? The circumstances were just a little different. I can't believe I even have to answer this. I pray you are just trolling. But, in case not...

The twin towers were struck by passenger airliners loaded to the hilt with jet fuel. The impact of the jets blew much of the fire retardant off of the construction. The towers collapsed because the jet fuel burned through the steel support frame. When the steel support melted, those floors collapsed down onto the floors below. Then, it was simple physics. The weight of all those floors above was no longer properly distributed and supported, and it created a domino effect. The towers literally collapsed upon themselves.

In an earthquake the magnitude of the one seen in this movie, the external forces acting upon a skyscraper will rip it apart. The very ground the building is built upon can be torn open by the quake, and then no skyscraper, no matter the engineering behind it, can survive. As the damage worsens, and the ground beneath it continues to shake violently, the building can topple in any direction.



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Gravity means tall skyscrapers would fall... not tip over like a domino - at least not a tall skyscraper like those shown.

To tip over their internal structure would have stay intact against the overwhelming stresses being exerted on the building.

For a short building - up to say 10 stories - it may stay intact... but any tall skyscraper (like those in the movie) the internal stresses would be too great and the building would disintegrate and fall vertically (or more accurate a parabola).... the building remains would land in a heap of debris close to the original site.

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http://enriquemontalar.com/chile-dos-colapsos-y-una-amenaza-de/

This is Concepcion, Chile, 2010.
Sometimes they do tip over like a domino.


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It's kinda weird the way jet fuel can't melt through steel though.
Tis odd.

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It's kinda weird the way blacksmiths make horseshoe and other things out of steel that is not molten though. It's kinda weird the way construction beams are roll forged out of steel that is not molten though.
Tis odd.

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Only needs to melt it enough to weaken, not turn into a pool of molten metal.

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"not turn into a pool of molten metal." Yet we see certain video shots of dripping hot metal. Hmm.

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Well that could be a different type of metal melting or then it proves my point that jet fuel can melt metal into a pool of metal.

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IF there had only been 1 airplane hitting the towers, The 1st, Tower 1 would have stood it
The Pilot hit to high on the building, upper 1/4
The 2nd Pilot did better he hit just above 1/2

The Impact and resulting fire, Didn't MELT any steel

It did heat it up and weaken it, keeping in mind this is NOT brittle steel but must be able to sway

The FIRE softening the structural steel cause the weight above to start coming down

When Tower 2 hit the ground it gave off a 4.? earthquake which was enough to take down Tower 1

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research "Mechanical resonance" or "resonance disaster". The frequency of the energy waves from the earthquake and the movement of the building increase the amplitude of the energy wave thereby increasing the destruction, because concrete is a brittle little bastard.

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It isn't about the amount of damage... its about the way they fell after giving way. Tall buildings that collapse, break up and fall DOWN, they don't pivot around a fulcrum - only in cartoons do tall buildings fall like they fall in this film.

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Like when people say sound proof or bullet proof, it's inaccurate, a better term is resistant, because it can withstand a certain amount. Example would be a piece of glass might be designed to stop a .45cal acp, making it bullet resistant, however if someone uses a .50cal sniper rifle it would cut through it like butter.

Skyscrapers in San Francisco have to be built to withstand a certain level of earthquake, but going above that would cause damage or even bring it down, the largest recorded quake in San Fran is 7.9, this was supposedly 9.6. Which according to an online calculator I just used means the quake in the film was 50.118 times bigger, with 354.813 times the amount of energy released.

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Actually, I believe skyscrapers would be one of the more safe structures to be in during an earthquake (don't know how they'd fare in a 9.6 quake, though). In SF and LA skyscrapers are built to sway with the shaking, so it would be scary to be in a skyscraper in a quake but they are safer than other structures. The Transamerica Pyramid in SF has huge ball bearings in its foundation so it would roll with a quake.

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I suppose the terrain of San Francisco (hilly) as opposed to NYC (flat) might have something to do with buildings seeming to fall as they collapse.

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