Just had a great idea for a sequel to this (or at least for an episode of the AVGN show set after it). Check it out... LJN gets the licence to make a video game adaption of "Angry Video Game Nerd: The Movie", and the AVGN has to go on an epic quest to prevent them from making it. How meta would that be?
shareSounds to much like jay and silent Bob strike back
shareDoes it? I've actually never seen "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back." I am a big fan of Kevin Smith's speeches, interviews and podcasts etc, but I haven't seen really any of his films. I will go read a synopsis of "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" right now.
shareOk, I just read a synopsis of "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" and I see what you mean about my idea being similar, but I think there are enough major key differences that it really wouldn't be an issue.
For starters, the storyline of "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" isn't meta at all like my idea for the "AVGN Sequel." For my "AVGN Sequel" the AVGN would be attempting to stop LJN from making a video game based on the previous movie, which means that the sequel itself would be acknowledging the fact that the previous film exists as a fictional film in the world the sequel is set in, rather than as simply a previous course of events that this sequel follows in the same fictional world setting. In "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" on the other hand, Jay and Silent Bob are trying to stop a film from being made based on their in-world comic book counterparts, which in no way acknowledges the fictionality of the worlds of the previous films, but only the fictionality of the comic books based on their likenesses, which the previous films also acknowledged as being entirely fictional. Nothing meta about "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back."
Secondly, in "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" they are trying to stop a film being made to protect their reputations, and they are willing to sell out and allow the film to be made if they receive royalties from the studio. In my "AVGN Sequel" the AVGN would be trying to stop LJN from making a video game based on the previous film in order to protect the public from another bad LJN game. The AVGN would be driven in this by guilt and the need for redemption, because if he hadn't made the film then there would be no LJN game based on it. He must redeem himself by correcting his mistake, and he would not be willing to sell out at all. In "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" however, they are entirely self interested, protecting their own reputations (or at least earning money for letting them be tarnished) by blocking the film with no interest in the public good at all.
Then thirdly, the AVGN is just entirely different from Jay and Silent Bob. The style of humour between the two franchises is just so vastly different, the main and supporting characters are entirely unalike, and the scenarios that the AVGN and his supporting characters would find themselves in would just be so completely different because of the distinct nature of the two franchises that there would be very little similarity.
In short, I would say that my sequel to "AVGN: The Movie" would be as much like "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" as "Frozen" is like "The Lion King."
I'm not sure if you are trolling, or if the synopsis you read for 'Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back' was just terrible. There are very few movies more meta than 'Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back'. The in-jokes and self-referencing in the movie, including several mentions of previous Kevin Smith movies (even by name), is off the charts.
Also, Jay and Silent Bob don't actually want any money. Their actual goal is to stop the film from being made, solely because Internet reviewers are making fun of them, and the money means nothing to them. It's explained several tims to them that would get tons of money, and they explicitly say how they do not want it, and only want to stop the movie to stop people from bashing them.
They aren't able to accomplish their goal of stopping the movie, but they are entitled to the money regardless, so they just use the money to fly around the country beating up Internet trolls.
You really should watch it. It's basically identical to what you were proposing, and it's a fun movie.
No I'm not trolling, sorry if I sounded that way. I guess maybe the synopsis I read was bad, but I suppose it's hard to put all self-references and in-jokes into a plot synopsis.
I still think there would be enough differences between my "AVGN Sequel" and "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" though. As I said, Jay and Silent Bob are entirely self interested, they only want to stop the movie for their own reputation, while in my "AVGN Sequel" the AVGN wants to stop the LJN game for the good of all mankind.
As far as being meta goes, even if "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" references previous films by name, the premise of the film is not fundamentally meta the way that my "AVGN Sequel" would be. My "AVGN Sequel" is essentially meta, because it's about a video game being made about the previous film, thus the very premise of the sequel itself is necessarily meta. With "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" though, the premise is not inherently meta at all. Sure the film may be meta in some ways, but if it wasn't meta at all it would still be essentially the same film. Therefore my "AVGN Sequel" would have to be considered more meta than "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back".
I will definitely go and watch "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" though. As a huge fan of Kevin Smith's interviews and speeches I think it's probably about time I get around to actually seeing his films, haha. Thanks for the tip.
In my opinion, any idea that involves LJN instead of token characters, Fred Fuchs instead of crazy generals, the center of the plot being actual video games instead of some huge robot monster (or whatever it's supposed to be) - well, you get the idea - is a good idea.
I don't particularly care about 'meta' or 'non-meta' - as long as the plot is interesting and the 'energy' of the movie is good, anything goes. I think it's better NOT to focus too much on gimmicks or things like 'meta', because that's like focusing on effects instead of the plot, or graphics instead of the gameplay, or brand of the paint, make of the brushes and the shape of the canvas instead of actually expressing your finest self and let the chips fall where they may otherwise.
I mean, just doing 'meta' for the sake of 'meta' is not going to produce anything good.
But, if it was up to me, I would just rather have Rolfe make AVGN episodes and nothing but AVGN episodes for the rest of his incarnation. Making movies is obviously too taxing for him - it took him over half a decade to make ONE movie! If he'd make a sequel, that'd be most likely AT LEAST another half-a-decade, if not more.
Besides, let's face it - as interested as he is in all the other stuff from monsters to board games and whatnot - AVGN episodes is what he does best. (Or at least used to..)
And your idea, as presentable and potentially interesting it seems, might not stretch all that well to a full movie, and is actually rather limited, compared to the idea of involving -everything- (or at least multiple things) from the AVGN world.
You are basically just involving LJN - although that is much better than involving the military and wheelchair generals with arms cut off. But surely there must be zillions of ways to involve LJN in an AVGN story, and I am not completely convinced that your idea is the optimal and the best of all of them, though there's nothing wrong with it, either. It just seems kind of obvious; it's like combining the superficially supposed-to-be-funny idea of making an AVGN game, and then AVGN reviewing that very game - or that style 'humor' anyway - with the basic idea of involving LJN in a storyline.
It's not really all that original an idea, pretty obvious and almost generic stuff, actually.
I'd rather forget the 'first movie' altogether, and just focus on the AVGN world and daily life without any 'big plot' - like a mockumentary style, where there could be 'real life' elements, like actually interviewing LJN people, the programmers, Fred Fuchs, and/or so on. But I think Rolfe would want to include rubber monsters and zombies and generals and .. yeah. It's not gonna happen - AVGN is just a (successful) sidenote in the big book of Rolfe's interests.
AVGN is famous because it's successful, not because it's Rolfe's main passion. So he'd always want to include all that other stuff into it - he can't even keep the AVGN episodes purely AVGN, a movie would be too big a temptation.
As we probably all already know.
(Not that I have seen the movie, but from the trailers, reviews and explanations it's pretty easy to say that it's not purely AVGN..)
So, your idea is .. good .. but not optimal, and it's not going to happen. And even if it happened, it'd take at least 5 or more years. I'd rather watch 20 good AVGN episodes than one mediocre AVGN movie with lots of token characters and filler, because the idea couldn't be stretched to a full movie.
I mean, can you explain your idea in more detail? WHAT exactly would happen within that main plot?
Can you explain lots of AVGN-specific, interesting details that would happen within that idea, or would it be another Impossible Mission / Austin Powers / Wayne's World-movie? I mean, the plot of "A small entity trying to prevent a big entity from doing a specific thing" has been done a lot in movies.
It would turn into just another generic movie with LJN being the only AVGN-ish thing besides AVGN itself.
But it's good that people are at least trying to come up with ideas - it shows that this movie really doesn't satisfy the hunger for "optimal AVGN movie", because it's really not all about AVGN.
And creativity and thinking for one's self is always encouraged in our circles.
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Here is an idea:
Just don't make the sequel, because, you know, in general sequels suck
If there were such thing as a sequel to this "thing" then James Rolfe would need to be actually creative and original because reusing ET, LJN and all those awful overused names/companies is just too much and AVGN:TM has proved it.
They'd also need to tone down the stupid unnecessary swearing that AVGN had but also the rest of the crew, try to act less forced and more natural then lastly don't be pulling a Michael Bay if they don't have the budget for it.