MovieChat Forums > Trainwreck: Woodstock '99 (2022) Discussion > First episode in, already errors

First episode in, already errors

posted 2 years ago by [deleted]
12 replies | jump to latest

I've only watched the first episode, but it's clear who's behind this "documentary."

The blame for all the chaos is not put on the idiots who took the water away from the kids when they entered the concert. The blame is put on the idiot frat boys who showed up to plow some hippie puss and get wasted. Now, I'm no fan of idiot frat boys, but to blame what happened at this concert on them is only satisfying some contemporary delusion about "toxic masculinity." The "documentary" then suggests these boys were influenced by the movie Fight Club, which hadn't even been released in theaters when the concert happened (and did not catch on with the culture at large until well into the 21st century; I saw Fight Club opening night in the theater and the only frat boy in the place stood up at the end and announced, "Well, that sucked!"). Very piss-poor film making, if you ask me.

[–] HelpMeRhonda (1158) 2 years ago

Not surprised. Of course the industry would look for a scapegoat. Anyone who falls for that narrative is jaded.

[–] Ticketsplease (4024) 2 years ago

Many elements not one.

I think culturally, from the late 90s to around 2010, it was culturally acceptable to be loud and outrageous, and edgy.

That's why "extreme sports" was big in that era.

And Jackass.

So glad that era has passed.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Yes, this era of Brown Nosing Corporations and the Government is so much better...

I guess folks like you are too scared to think for yourself, so "edgy" is a 'bad' thing. (BTW, 'Edgy' is a term made up by suits and ties to describe things that make them slightly nervous; I'm sure you think J6 was an "insurrection" despite it looking NOTHING like an insurrection. I'll be glad when THIS era has passed).

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Oh, and just so you know, being angry at greedy people with power didn't start in the late 90s. It's been around for a long, LONG time.

[–] Ticketsplease (4024) 2 years ago

You just have to watch one of those 2000s celebrity "roasts" to see how sick America was culturally during that era. Nothing to do with greed.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

I do agree those are awful.

[–] R_Kane (15828) 2 years ago

You claim to be 20 years old, which makes you 8 years old in 2010, and a sperm in the late 90s. You’ve ZERO right to weigh in with an opinion. And you suck at lying.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Who claims to be 20 years old? My love of Laura Gemser and Bo Derek should make it obvious I'm much older than that!

[–] TheArgentinian (7109) 2 years ago

Movies can be a reflection of society, not the other way around.

[–] diezman (2126) 2 years ago

Mob mentality.

Add alcohol and drugs to the mix and we see what happens.

[–] Sandman81 (1509) 2 years ago

I suggest you watch the next two episodes.

This one actually does a better job of not just blaming "toxic masculinity", unlike the HBO one. The greed of the promoters is called out, along with them outsourcing as much as they could so that they could not be blamed for the prices and poor conditions. Their complete lack of regard for providing decent security is well covered, most notably by the kid who admitted to selling his security shirts to concert goers so that they could go backstage. Then the press conference at the start of the third day where they are either in denial about what was happening or just lying.

But it doesn't let the "idiot frat boys" off the hook either. People are always responsible for their own actions, no matter how bad they are treated, and they knew what they were doing was wrong but continued to do so anyways. Most of the people there were smart enough to leave early on Sunday, after seeing how bad and out of control the conditions had gotten.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

I did watch the last two episodes. The callous disregard of the promoters, even 20 years later, is jaw-dropping. I suppose they have to take the official position that they did nothing wrong to avoid lawsuits. The one guy suggesting the rapes and sexual assaults were inevitable...wow, what a jackass.