Mel Gibson


Mel has really gone off the rails these days with his rants and such, but there is no denying that he's really good at directing films...this one included. Heck, let's not forget that he has starred in quite a good amount of films as well, including the "Lethal Weapon" series "What Women Want" "The Patriot" "The Passion of the Christ" (never saw it, but heard that it was really good) and "Braveheart" (another epically long violent film of his, but still worth watching).

In summary, he might have what some call "extreme" views or outbursts from time to time, but the man is close to a genius when it comes to his directorial work.

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indeed.

gibson directed "Passion of the Christ" but didn't star it in... plus, he was the original (and best) Mad Max.

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I agree with your entire statement! Speaking of which, I tried watching the "Mad Max: Fury Road" remake and found it to be incredibly dull and uninspiring. The best part about it was the action and that was it. In summary, it was nothing compared to Mel's previous films with the series.

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i cannot believe all the hype!!

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Tell me about it. Speaking of which, I heard a rumor online that the kids channel Nickelodeon somehow had a role in this film, but cannot confirm whether or not that was true. Moreover, like in most, if not all of the previous films, Ford Motor Company also supplied the vehicles for the remake as well. As much as I prefer Ford over any other car manufacturer, I did not care for the remake at all.

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The "Patriot" and "Braveheart" were visually good and good story-wise, but awfully inaccurate historically. But the battle scenes in "Braveheart" were revolutionary at the time.

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You do raise a good point. If it was one thing that critics seem to pick apart with those films, it was the historical aspect of them. When I watch them, though, it never really feels like three hours or so. Some people complained about the long run time, but I suppose these types of epics aren't for everybody.

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Their lengths didn't bother me at all either. Good movies. They were thrilling or captivating. One simply should ignore historical accuracy. But still they don't make them like that anymore.

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They sure don't! In most cases, historical accuracy never really bothers me either (and neither did the lengths)...as I usually just focus on the story line itself while watching.

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"Mel has really gone off the rails these days with his rants and such"

Mel Gibson's supporters try to deflect by saying it was only vile stuff he said

it was only words etc

well he physically abused his wife then offered her $15M to stay silent

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Yeah none of that stuff was good at all. Even though he is a good actor and director, there is no denying that he has probably done some pretty good damage to his reputation at this point. Who can also forget his leaked audio rant about the shelved film "Maccabees?"

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be it a woman or a child .. abuse is wrong

i boycott polanski but i watch mel's films

shame on me :(

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"be it a woman or a child .. abuse is wrong"

Agreed. As for Polanski, the last film that I watched from him was "The Ghost Writer" with Ewan McGregor and Pierce Brosnan. It wasn't bad, although I had the uncomfortable image of him in the back of my mind the entire time while watching it. Last I knew, he was still in a heap of legal trouble....and for good reason Never saw "The Pianist" but heard that it received great critical acclaim.

Nothing to be ashamed about when seeing a film that's really good, but I can see where you are coming from, nonetheless.

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I'm not alone when i say its impossible to take your eyes off old burn out mel

Edge Of Darkness
saw it twice in the cienma
a ferocious thriller
the "what does it feel like" car scene is haunting

The Beaver
i consider it his best work as an actor
it would have been nominated for best actor and screenplay had it only been released before his meltdown

Get The Gringo
to me it always felt like one of those B movies from the 1970s
the kinda film charles bronson used to make

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Thanks for your input. I considered those three to be among Mel's comeback films considering the fact that he was away from the big screen for a little while at the time (at least physically). I saw "Edge of Darkness" myself (although not in theaters) and I thought that it was pretty good too. Although I still have never gotten around to see "The Beaver" and "Get The Gringo" I do understand that those films were praised as well and do intend to see them whenever I get the chance.

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I always thought the MOTHER of that girl should have been arrested and charged, not only Polanski. The mother practically 'gave' her daughter to Polanski....ALLEGEDLY. Who would leave their 15 year old daughter in a director's house on her own.....knowing full well how the film industry's 'casting couch' works?

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Polanski said this was a sexually experienced girl, but still he should have known better. But believe me, half of Hollywood, especially the Hollywood of that period and before, should have been jailed for similar 'offences'. I'm sure people would be shocked at what went on in sleazy Hollywood.

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i believe hollywood support him because they are no better in their eyes

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For sure.

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i am sorry to say casey affeck finally gave in and started pandering PC

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I haven't really read much about the Casey Affleck allegations. Didn't some girl from the Manchester at Sea production claim he sexually molested her, or tried to? Right?

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it mustn't have been as bad as polanski

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Well for one thing, she wasn't under aged AND he never got to sleep with her, he just pestered her I think.

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A difference of opinions is what makes horse races. I think it's quite a stretch to say that he's even breathing the same air as directorial geniuses. He relies on slow motion too much, as well as gore and F-bombs instead of good writing. He seems to assume the audience is a little dim and easily played.

Speaking of dim and easily played, where it comes to sheer genius was the marketing on "The Passion of the Christ." He got Abe Foxman to help sell the movie, and got the media to give him free coverage by saying something outrageous whenever the stories were beginning to die down. Trump got free PR from the MSM the same way. Some people think he's a genius, but Gibson really perfected the gambit. And he showed it was a gambit when Joe Eszterhas tried to pull the same stunt on him to get him to sell his E-book. Gibson wouldn't respond in the press no matter how much Eszterhas baited him.

In the end, Gibson is a deeply troubled but very talented man. I haven't seen "Hacksaw Ridge." It seems like it ought to appeal to his two major fanbases -- the religious (but not so religious that they are offended by bad language) and those who like their gore with extra blood.

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QUOTE: "He got Abe Foxman to help sell the movie, and got the media to give him free coverage by saying something outrageous whenever the stories were beginning to die down."

RESPONSE: As someone who followed the controversy in real time, I can say with confidence that your accusation is completely false.

The first clue of Passion controversy was when Gibson went on the O'Reilly Factor from the set of The Passion to express displeasure that the NYT was interviewing his octogenarian father. Shortly thereafter, Rabbi Marvin Hier and the ADL accused the script of The Passion of being anti-Semitic. This was around March 2013, in the middle of production, almost a year before release. Team Gibson released a written statement around addressing the accusation from Foxman and Hier. Nothing Gibson said was outrageous or controversial. Gibson also did some innocuous print interviews with Zenit, a Catholic news agency, and EWTN televised interviews with Raymond Arroyo. These interviews, which were aimed at religious Catholic audiences, were not controversial. Mel Gibson has never been attributed as saying anything outrageous about Foxman or Hier. The only "outrageous" remark he made was the off the cuff remark he made about Frank Rich to Peter Boyer of the New Yorker, which obviously reflected genuine anger rather than a cynical attempt to stoke outrage. All the while, despite not having seen the film, Foxman, Hier, and Rich were frequently criticizing The Passion in the press. As Gibson has repeatedly pointed out, the controversy died way as soon as the film opened. He remained bitter over the experience, and cited it as one reason behind his anti-Semitic rant to the arresting cop in 2006.

Mel Gibson took the same approach with Joe Eszterhas: issuing a written statement and then going quiet. It shouldn't be a surprise that Gibson has a consistent PR approach: he's had the same publicist for over 20 years.

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As someone who also followed the controversy in real time, Mel always turned up the heat whenever it looked like the free press was dying down. That the controversy died away as soon as the film opened isn't exactly true -- that's when all the critics weighed in, and they had plenty to say. Gibson didn't respond to them, as I recall, because that would have been giving them publicity. And since it earned a "rotten" rating on Rotten Tomatoes, discretion would seem to be the better part of valor. Just Googling the string "Passion of the Christ slow motion" will get you about 645,000 results, the first page of which did not seem overly enthusiastic over what the BBC described as "seemingly endless slow-motion." It wasn't a compliment.

Back at the time, countless people told me that Gibson "had to defend himself," and that was why he was always in the media responding to Abe Foxman. When Eszterhas tried to goad him into a similar ongoing fight, he would have none of it. Gibson defended himself when there was an advantage to it -- for him. He'd described the ongoing controversy surrounding TPOTC as the kind of "publicity money can't buy" when he discussed The Passion of the Christ with "The New Yorker" (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/980753/posts). He didn't want to give similar publicity to Eszterhas, so yes -- THEN he went quiet. And Eszterhas tried hard to get Gibson to respond to him. No dice. Why should he give him what he knew from experience was so valuable?

The people who read the Boyer article in the New Yorker will see whether his comment about Frank Rich is the only "outrageous" thing said in that article. (It wasn't.) I haven't the time or the interest anymore in looking up the countless articles where Gibson said something juicy to keep the pot boiling until the money rolled in. Quotes from "The New Yorker" article kept the ink flowing for some time. Him claiming the Holy Ghost was the real director and he was just "directing traffic" was another (https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2004/02/28/passion-without-perspective/e89a88df-1dc1-4dae-bb9c-60fcfc9cb6ab/?utm_term=.496c65994607). It's a style of self-promotion that's been used before and since -- saying something outrageous to get people talking. Barnum probably didn't invent it. But people like Gibson and Trump have taken it to new heights.

For those who adore Gibson's film style, it's simply a matter of taste. I just finished watching Tim Burton's movie "Big Eyes," the story of the woman who painted all those children with the enormous eyes that were wildly popular in the '60's and early '70's. Andy Warhol said the paintings must be good -- "Anything that popular must be!" Gibson has his audience, too. I will leave it to film historians as to whether "seemingly endless slow-motion" and heads exploding puts him in the pantheon of movie greats, or simply gives him cult appeal.

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Truth!!!! I've never let any of his crazy antics sway me from what a true talent he is.

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