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SONS AND DAUGHTERS, DOUBLES, TOBY CAN CHANGE FORM?

posted 9 years ago by furiospino
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Ok, blatant fact from movie plot:

Wyatt is actually Hunter and Robbie/Toby was used by Katie to get into the Nelson's household to get the nephew back.

Did you notice how Katie touches Wyatt/Hunter when Alex, Robbie and him run into her? See how Wyatt/Hunter even HUGS her for a while, she touches him back, there, and says "He looks just like his mom".

Here's a theory on the mysterious, much talked about Robbie. He is the child son of one of those creepy bitches belonging the Coven. It's curious how he vanishes into thin air as soon as Katie's goal was reached - to get into the house where Hunter lives and get what they want.

Now, there's even a curious similarity between this and the SECOND movie: Ali and Alex (similar sounding names) cohabit with a stepbrother, of course not directly related to them. Wyatt is Hunter adopted, Hunter in PA2 is conceived by Ali's stepmother, Kristi. Plus, they, Ali and Alex, both ARE potential to-be-sacrificed virgins. Why Ali doesn't seem to get any attention from the demon could be that she was indirectly blessed by the south american maid.

Are there two different demons or is it just that Toby can change form?: a child one is revealed by the xbox dots and a taller, older one, Toby (shown as an avatar on xbox as well). This baffles me a lot.

NOTE: I don't know about you but the bathtub scene is so powerfully terrifying. I always heard stories of babies drowning in the bathtub because they were left alone and this one really got me horrified. Also the homage to the Shining was kinda cool. Where Wyatt/Hunter goes on the tricicle.

That been said, I found this franchise to be not really scary scary or classically horror, but rather interesting in the genre of possession movies. I'm not a huge fan as a matter of fact. Yet what I loved about it is that useful info is not given stupidly or spelled out throughout them for the audience and continuously. It's revealed gradually and much of it is left for personal interpretation. There are no religious characters, just stories and mithology symbols here and there. No exorcists. They're just ordinary, dorky, clumsy people completely abandoned to their fragility, in their bleak, anonymous *beep* suburbian houses.

[–] fiatlux-1 9 years ago

I believe Toby can indeed change form. One of the first reasons I think this is: What kind of very young children (Katie & Kristi in Part 3) would want to be *friends* with a creature that looked terrifying?
Demons always look beyond horrifying in drawings, so I can only imagine he took on an *innocent* form when bonding with them.

Same in Part 4. I believe he was the child-sized image in the Kinect-dots.

I'm not sure if Robbie is supposed to be Toby, I tend to think he is NOT.
I believe Robbie was brought in to the house to introduce Toby to Wyatt/Hunter in a friendly, non-threatening way.
He is likely the son of a coven member/ under their spell.

I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.

[–] LilaInFlames 9 years ago

Just finished watching this and during the scenes I was awake for I got the impression Robbie is a familiar. He can't be Toby since he keeps talking to him. His physical form could be a kid they abducted, the child of one of the coven members, or just conjured up from the fiery pits of hell. He's a lesser demon assigned the task of drawing Hunter in. When that is accomplished, the demon goes on his merry way and the kid dies. Or goes home to his worried parents if you prefer.