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what was the deal with the cookies and tupperware and rabbit foot?


symbolism or something im missing?
i was texting alot during this film

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Yeah, I guess you were the guy texting a couple rows ahead of me.

Leave your phone at home, go buy another ticket, sit and WATCH THE FILM.

(If anybody explains every second of this film to martytamu27, you will officially be dead to me)

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In my defense I do set my screen to the minimum brightest setting

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They just showed these things to establish that the girl was in fact cute and her desire for murder wasn't truly a part of her character.

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Ok, the penalty is commuted from death to 10 lashes.

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Well since you're so important to my life, no explanation here.

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That's good to know!

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Nobody warned me about the humidity in South America. Jesus, the heat alone...

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Apparently you have never heard of reader criticism.

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The deal is it was a cheesy script. They're just go-to movie cliches, like everything in this movie.

But seriously, texting during a movie, even a crappy one like this? Don't be that guy.

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They were the opposite of cliches.

She started out as a femme fatale, which is a cliche, then went into a girl who makes cookies and nags about tupperware. I can't recall hearing about tupperware in any other film.

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Damsel in distress and generic love interest.

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My husband had never seen a Noomi Rapace film before. He fell head-over-heels for her. He is tired of the cookie cutter actresses out there. He said she was a naturally beautiful woman who wasn't aware that she was beautiful.

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She is completely useless the only role she plays is the love interest.

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Okay her getting kidnapped just extended the movie, the Albanian was a *beep* moron for believing the tape after finding out that Colin Farrell set them up to kill each other, the twist with her not sending the tape was one of the things that put the movie over the edge was contrivance. That was not pulled off well, for if you want to show nothing good comes from revenge, how about killing off a character as a result of pursuing revenge. The script thinks it is much smarter than it is. If you think the character is highly original, why is she?

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I think you are trolling me now. If you think this is god tier writing, fine. I am not arguing with a fan boy.

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whatever plant. What is your connection to Rapace anyway, since you have a almost stalkerish obsession with her, unless you are her agent.

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He's not wrong.

I'm not on either side of your and the other guy's flame war but the last several hundred posts on the imdb are close to 100 percent to do with Noomi Rapace herself or her films.

Either your a street-team publicist or you possibly have a den with walls covered in discrete polaroid pictures of her.

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You are still talking about her films. Want to play smart ass, fine over 90% and those burt posts came after my comment, so you posted those just to prove a point.

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Still doesn't change the fact that you have a bias towards anything Rapace is in, but yeah for i am trolling for saying rapace's character is unoriginal, tell me though what about her makes original and try not to be vague boyo. Burt is only a day old not days, so you are the liar now. Your trolling skills need work, but if I am stupid for thinking the writing in this film is awful, then I'll gladly be stupid.

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There is a difference in liking her and being a blind fan, which you seem to be. I can only describe her as this. Something tragic happened to her and she wants revenge(The Bride, but a much lesser extent), she has the damsel in distress disorder, shyness. That is about all I have going. As I said to you she was useless to the entire plot.
I am sorry I am not going back a 100 pages+ to go before prometheus(I doubt you would do the same to someone else) and the furthest I went to is November and I said *beep* it. Maybe if you took a screen writing class you would see why Dead man down blows, but you are a plebian viewer.

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Take her out would the same events happen? Tell me the intricacies. You can call me dumb, but at least I don't think Branded is a good movie. Also I know this film is against revenge, but it did that very badly. 10/10 my *beep* ass, there is a reason why the critics are panning it.
Fri Mar 22 2013 16:53:33) My post
Fri Mar 22 2013 21:05:53 Your post
My post is before. You have the reading problem.

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But the revenge still happens either way. I do think for myself and I happen to agree with the critics. Those are all generic character traits and this character will not be remembered. Branded was interesting idea, but failed in its execution horribly. You are not blowing my mind, I have seen more films that you, that I can assure you of.

Fri Mar 22 2013 16:53:33 This is the post were I called you a plant, for this is when I went through your history
Mar 22 2013 21:13:26 This is when I said the history comment, but I was merely explaining how I came to the conclusion.

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Do you care to embarrass yourself again is the question. Implying is hard for you, why would I say plant out of the blue and say stalkerish obession with Rapace and not go through the pages? Maybe I should have said could not instead of cannot in the second comment, but you still would have said reading problems lol u troll me. Also I am not going back half a year, you have hundreds of pages of comments and do not feel like doing that, but you may be austic enough to do just that, hell I bet you would even go back 10,000 pages of comments. Yeah the introduction that started us in the middle of things yeah and the fact that Terrence Howard was killed by stupid character syndrome, but I bet you view that death scene as well written and believable, so Beatrice's involvement only worked because the plot said so. You are the kind of person that would seem to like films like Equilibrium and tony Scott films. Subjective dear me thank you for this knowledge I did not know about, I mean subjectvism in film golly g wilkers thanks for sharing(fyi I am being sarcastic). I still say you a PR agent who has only been hired recently, but unless I find out who you are, that would be impossible to prove.
PS Yes they are generic and no she will not, that I can assure you, maybe by casual film goers, but not the pretentious snobs like me.

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If they post as much as you do, yes. Just the office, but I was looking for films. The stupid character is the Albanian for shooting Howard's character after knowing Farrel was trying to kill them. I never said you watched, just that you would like it. Yes the plot has to make sense you just can't pull something out of your ass.

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All I am going to say is you have one hell of a high suspension of disbelief(Yes that is very bad thing), was there anything to make you think that in the film and film has to at least hint at it and that is an excuse. You want more fine, the meeting with the other gangsters after killing the black gangster at the beginning and after the 2nd shotout scene they are not heard from again and plot point is dropped, so killing the black gangster only existed to set up that scene so Farrell would have a chance to kill Howard. Not showing how Farrell's friend talked his way into the cemetery(Show don't tell). Farrell not thinking his friend is not going to bust down the door. Howard not recognizing someone who most likely had press around them after the daughter got killed. What made Howard look for the bug in his phone and why did Farrell bring food for Howard in the scene in the high rise. The mother was comic relief and offered the exposition of saying Rapace is shy and having Rapace take care of her. The ending with them living happily ever after with little to no consequence of revenge in an anti-revenge movie. Lets look at Irreversible the characters in that pursued revenge and ended up attacking the wrong person, getting arrested, being brutally assaulted, and end up going to jail and in this nothing bad happened, unless you want to say kidnapping. The film can say it is anti-revenge, but that doesn't mean that it conveys it. I am not, the film is as straight forward as can be.

Also almost right off the back you were a jackass by saying, "Use your brain. I don't see what's contrived about not sending a tape. You're clearly insane. Check yourself into the asylum plz thnks." Clearly you were not interested in civility.

I recommended to you for you are a general audience as shown by this and burt(comedy for high schoolers). Plenty=290 posts out of 600 posts(page 60 and if I went back further it would not look as close)? There seems to be a majority of posts to doing publicity(see this movie instead of this) and talking about rapace and the films she is in, so PR agent or not you have bias for her anything you say about her is drawn into question.

Good things about the film, yeah shocker there are thinks I like about it; The performances as to be expected are great with the best scene in the film being the high rise due mostly to the editing, sound, lighting and was part of the script I really like(there is some good in it). Of course the direction is also good and does the best it can do. The film could have benefited from being longer and odds are that I would like it more on extended dvd.



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Not baseless, for I based on you saying that a grenade to the face is reasonable for you to think that. Fine then I apologize you are no plant, just an over zealous fan I was wrong on that point and I am sorry. Yes it is an excuse and yes it is, for that character doesn't show up again at all, nor is he mentioned again. No I too it as Farrell not caring about him, but what purpose does that character serve to the overall plot other than that one scene? Characters need to be wrapped up not left open at the end of films, or otherwise any film that does that can be said to be thinking of a sequel. Well if you hire hitmen, you usually have to describe your target and a beard makes someone different? That is like saying here are some Groucho Marx glasses and say you are in disguise. What more did she add, you brought it up. Not really this is as modern as you get. That is not good a film needs to be self contained and sequel baiting(which is this doesn't count as) is not good. Yes it is, for it is a linear narrative. Something not straight forward is something that experiments with narrative like Last of England or something like Alphaville.

Movies I admit are terrible that are enjoyable. Enjoying a movie doesn't make it good and who the hell uses emoticons besides teenage girls.

I never said you thought it was, but you did enjoy the story, stop putting words in my mouth now Penny. But I should never had said that, for that inevitable leads to a pissing match when we both start attacking, but I threw the first punch with Branded and should not have broken my rule on attacking others film choices and going back further meant to the beginning(might want to be clear next time).

There is a bias, for if you a had a chance to see only one film and that being a Rapace film or some other film which one would you pick. I openly admit my bias about Nic Cage movies, for the way you defended this film as soon as I explained was a ad hominems and soon enough this is what this thread as derailed into with me being guilty at some parts as well. Nice of you to blow off my 2nd paragraph.

Also I liked Prometheus a whole lot, so by me liking it with my bad tastes, that must mean Prometheus is a bad film and movies that I recommend you to watch that I hate must be good.

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Zeal is just enthusiastism, which you show and that is not a negative aspect. Well I am a very arrogant person oh his uncle(or something of the sort). Not him, the person Howard's Character is talking to in the restaurant before Farrell starts sniping, perhaps I was unclear.

Lets look at Ed Wood films, so bad it is good, those are what I mean. A film can be entertaining, but lack craft. Now if the craft is great and there is emotional reaction, then the film is doing its job, but you could say even if the craft is bad if you enjoy there is still emotion about, so...

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