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Polish once again get shat on for their part in WW2

posted 9 years ago by MrPositive1
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They were barely even mentioned in this movie (so ridiculously biased) and they cracked the first enigma code and taught the British how to do it as well. Jerzy Rozycki, Henryk Zygalski and Marian Rejewski first cracked the Enigma code using mathematics because the British were too stubborn to get off the linguistics method. What's next, the Western World also gives Poles no credit for saving London in the Battle of Britain? Don't invite them to the WW2 celebrations in London after the war. Or give their country away to Russia? Oh wait....

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[–] benbrae76 9 years ago

A little research goes a long way Mr Positive. Perhaps you should learn how to do it.

[–] andyd-1 9 years ago

How about the film 'Battle of Britain' shows Poles training and eager to take on combat roles. As well as formally mentioning and thanking them at the end.

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[–] mbevertse 8 years ago

This imo a good documentary about Polish efforts during WW II for the United Kingdom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptijNcDanVw

[–] benbrae76 9 years ago

One thing that saddens me is how little the modern generation knows of WWII. It's not taught in schools, and it's almost as if the schools are trying to obliterate WWII from history. So many learn their "facts" from movies such as "The Imitation Game" and others, and never bother reading up what really happened. Yes there are many "factual" documentaries around, but many of those are also suspect. Sad!

[–] tenkisoratoti 9 years ago

Claimed the Poles saved Britain? No. Just no.

They played their part, as did those from the Commonwealth and other free peoples. However, the vast majority of pilots, radar operators, signallers, labourers, mechanics, etc, etc, etc were British. Ergo, I rather think the British people saved themselves and surely it was very good of them to give a conquered nation like Poland a chance to strike back at the very thing that had aggrieved them so.

[–] Darkwalker173 9 years ago

One thing that saddens me is how little the modern generation knows of WWII. It's not taught in schools, and it's almost as if the schools are trying to obliterate WWII from history. So many learn their "facts" from movies such as "The Imitation Game" and others, and never bother reading up what really happened. Yes there are many "factual" documentaries around, but many of those are also suspect. Sad!

I couldn't agree more.
I became interested in studying WW2 in my early teens after endless talks with my grandfather who had been an officer during the war, and his accounts would leave me wanting to know more.
Sadly, the modern generation has no direct connection to WW2 and would rather read up on the lives pseudo celebrities than study history.

I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away.

[–] fountaincap 9 years ago

One thing that saddens me is how little the modern generation knows of WWII. It's not taught in schools, and it's almost as if the schools are trying to obliterate WWII from history. So many learn their "facts" from movies such as "The Imitation Game" and others, and never bother reading up what really happened. Yes there are many "factual" documentaries around, but many of those are also suspect. Sad!

On the contrary, WWII is taught in school, at least, it was where I went in the U.S. The only thing is now, with an adult mind, I can look back and see that the way they covered it was to use it mostly as a lesson in political correctness, rather than understanding how and why events happen. It was a cartoon version of history where you just have the good allies and evil Germans (Pacific theater was covered even less). No context was given as to how regimes like National Socialist Germany became so popular or how relations with the allied nations eventually broke down. I guess it's just easier to teach history as a manichean struggle between good and evil without any nuances.

[–] katjoeus 9 years ago

My secondary school history education was almost exclusively about WWII (with a huge emphasis on the European part of it, if I remember correctly - I never realized until much later how many other parts of the world were involved!!).
But then again, I'm from Germany, so it may well be different elsewhere (and it's been awhile, so not sure what they teach nowadays...I bet there's quite a bit of WWII being taught in German schools, though)

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[–] katjoeus 9 years ago

Well, when I was taught history at school, it was very honest: what the Nazis did was unspeakably horrible. No two ways about it and no excuses!

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[–] katjoeus 9 years ago

Thanks :-)
I actually studied English at university and have been living in the UK and the US for eight years now; sometimes I think my English is now better than my German ;-)

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[–] southcoast2002 8 years ago

From looking at a school aged relative's history homework and classwork, I can deduce that in the UK, children are being taught that:-

- The British sat around at home, drinking cups of weak milky tea, watching George Formby films, and urging each other to "Keep Calm And Carry On", while the brave Russians charged German machine guns and artillery, armed only with 1 rifle between 10, and no ammunition, and were slaughtered by the million.
- Hundreds of thousands of Polish pilots fought bravely in the Battle of Britain,saving us from certain invasion and occupation, while cowardly British aircrews dropped millions of tons of incendiary bombs on German maternity hospitals and children's homes.
- Millions of Indians and Jamaicans actually landed at Normandy, and did most of the fighting in France. Same in Italy and North Africa.
- The British ran away at Dunkirk and left the French to it.
- The Americans decided one day to drop atom bombs on innocent Japanese civilians, just for the hell of it.
- The British and Americans, especially, were just as bad as the Nazis.
- Winston Churchill condemned six million Jews to death because he refused to bomb railway lines that led to concentration camps.
- Scottish, Irish, Australian, New Zealand and South African troops went bravely, and without hesitation into battle, while English (I emphasise) soldiers cowered in foxholes, surrendered without firing a shot, or ran away.

I may be exaggerating a bit, but you get the drift.

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