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I just hope they sort out the 'Patriots'

posted 11 years ago by jemmerling
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I never saw a clear political bias in this series* however I have found it unsettling to see the US flag used as a symbol of evil.

At the beginning of S2 there seemed to be some connection with the Illuminati but that was never developed.

If they don't explain everything in the finale then I hope they publish a complete explanation post-mortem.

In contrast I've mostly lost interest in the issue of whether the power can be restored.

*I think they hoped to appeal to both sides of the political spectrum, as Hunger Games has done successfully, but mostly what I've seen are mixed messages.

[–] Jackpot777 11 years ago

I never saw a clear political bias in this series* however I have found it unsettling to see the US flag used as a symbol of evil.

I liked that though and how they wore them as armbands like the Nazis did with the Swastika. Really gives a sense of a world turned upside down. There was also another nod to the Nazi ideology when the Patriots were killing off the disabled and mentally handicapped residents of Willoughby.

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[–] jemmerling 11 years ago

Having seen the last episode, I guess what I would like would be a history of the Patriots up to that point.

Like
-- who were they before the blackout?
-- when did they arise as a group and what led to their coming together?
-- what was their grand plan? Was it progressing according to schedule until the end of Season 2?
-- what were their immediate moves at the very start of the blackout?
-- did they know exactly when the blackout would happen?
-- what were they doing all that time in Cuba?
-- what strongly held beliefs do they have, if any?
-- what connection did the people in the Tower at the end of Season 1 have with the patriots? Where they in on the conspiracy or were they dupes? What did they think was happening?

[–] xxscottybxx 11 years ago

Did you not watch the show? They were stationed in Cuba and there were two episodes that have flash backs about the coup, most of the details would probably have been explained if the show were still on.

[–] jemmerling 11 years ago

These episodes must have been aired sometime in the middle of S2. I missed a couple of episodes around them. Can you identify the episodes?

[–] jemmerling 11 years ago

So after posting last night I went to Wikipedia and did see more information than I could recall from any episodes I'd seen. Although it's possible I just wasn't paying attention.

One point that was made was that the (real) President and some in the line of succession were on one or more airplanes when the Blackout struck. Was it implied that the Patriots timed the Blackout so that happened or was it a coincidence they took advantage of? Was that the "coup" or was there more involved?

Also I'll like more about when Rachel, Aaron, and Grace etc. were working in the Tower. What did they think was the purpose of their project? Did they suspect Randall etc. were part of some conspiracy?

Were the Patriots just power-hungry or did they sincerely believe themselves better Americans than the others who presumably had Top Secret clearances? If they were fervently Patriotic and psychopathic at the same time, that might explain how they could have gotten cleared.

Was it the plan all along to get Randall to the Tower so he could launch nukes or did that develop later? Had it always been the plan to target Philadelphia and Atlanta? Why not also Austin and Sacramento? OK this may have be made clear in the S1 finale but I don't remember.

Also, what were things like in Cuba when the Patriots were running things there for 15 years? Also, why do they not seem to have recruited any Cubans? I would expect them to have brought some Spanish-speaking people with them on the return but didn't notice any.

One more thing. The Patriots' use of Arabic as a code language implies they had all been in Iraq. How would that contribute to their overall history as a group?

[–] pmpowalisz 11 years ago

The blackout was an accident, due to rushing the use of the nano. The Patriots under the Sectary of Defense formed with the coup in Cuba after the blackout. They learned Arabic from the prisoners at the base, probably killing most of them.

[–] Abuhin 10 years ago

The blackout was an accident, due to rushing the use of the nano.

Are we sure?

In S1 finale, doesn't Aaron say he found an odd programming bug that left a "backdoor" in the operating system? Maybe Davis and Randall did it on purpose.

[–] killerz298 10 years ago

No he said HE left a backdoor in all his code and since they stole his code to use for the Nano AI that is how he gained access.

[–] velvetjoneslives 10 years ago

I don't think they ever fully answered this question. In the very first episode and in the early flashbacks they made it clear that Rachel and her husband knew that a total blackout was coming. Yet in the later flashbacks featuring Randall they implied that the blackout was only suppose to impact Afghanistan but went out of control spread around the planet. So either they never got to the real explanation or it was just poor make it up as you go writing.

The end of season one might have been one of the stupidest moments in TV history. You manage to disable the nano and turn the planet back on, but you turn around and reverse everything in a vain hope of stopping two nuclear missiles? Call me cruel hearted but I would have said F---'em . For the greater good. I'd rather lose two cities while regaining the world back. Especially considering one of them was the home to a totalitarian dictatorship.

[–] alioth4 10 years ago

*I think they hoped to appeal to both sides of the political spectrum, as Hunger Games has done successfully, but mostly what I've seen are mixed messages.

I found it interesting that the "Patriots" conspired to set Texas ("red") and California ("blue") against each other. They did play up the cultural differences (Californians were referred to as "granola-eating heathens" in the President's speech) much the same as they are played up today, in our present oligarchy's divide-and-conquer strategy against the American people (both "red" and "blue").

Yes the "Patriots"/"US" officially sided with Texas against California, but they were clearly using and manipulating Texas, and were no true friend of theirs either. Just as plutocrats today may appear to side more with "red" (although they've largely bought both parties), but are manipulating and using the culturally "red" quite a bit as well.

Just a thought, as these two most populous states are generally viewed as the "red" and "blue" poles of the country (although that's kind of simplistic).

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