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Do people whine about PG-13 because they're 13?


I'll admit this movie was garbage and shouldn't have been made. But as for the overall issue regarding movies rated PG-13; it's getting ridiculous. This movie, for example, wouldn't have been any better if it was rated R... A few *beep* nude scenes and gratuitous violence wouldn't have saved this movie from mediocrity.

I'm 36, so I was going to the theater to watch those older movies when they came out (or at least watching them with my dad on VHS, when it comes to earlier stuff like Terminator, Alien and the original Point Break). All these remakes the people whine about being PG-13; when the originals were rated R, they weren't good because they were rated R... They were good because they were well-written, well-directed and well-acted, or at least had one or two of these elements.

The issue isn't just limited to remakes, either. People complain about a lot of original IPs that are rated PG-13, as if the amount of swearing, violence or nudity is what makes or breaks a good movie -- which I think is completely ridiculous...

Yeah, it's true that some movies inherently need this type of content to bring a particular vision to life, such as Natural Born Killers. If a movie needs that content to tell its story, it usually will. I can only think of a few examples within the past decade of a movie that wasn't nearly as good as it would have been if the studio wasn't pushing for a PG-13 rating.

But it's certainly not as widespread a problem as anyone would believe from reading IMDB forums, though. A movie doesn't need an R rating to be good; it doesn't need the elements of an R rating unless a movie's thematic core would be compromised without those things. So when people are trying to argue that a movie like the Point Break reboot wouldn't have bombed if was rated R, it makes me wonder how many of the people behind that idea are 12- to 16-year-olds themselves...

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PG-13 movies are made for kids.

People complain because most movies are not made for adults anymore..

Studios milk these movies from back in the day that were rated R and make lame PG-13 remakes.

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and R rating isn't just a few bleep and tit shots. you can have much more mature themes in general than a pg13 movie.

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I actually think what you've written is very true. However when they take an R- rated franchise and water it down to PG13, then they ruin the franchise. Of course there are exceptions. Like Die Hard 5, which once again became R-rated after the 4th that was PG13. It sucked in spite of being rated R.

But it's not just this remake but all the remakes that have been awful so far. But you're right the rating is not the main problem. Still though, part of the fun of the original Point Break, the original Robocop and the original Die Hard was the R-rating.

In these times of superhero movies and PG13 remakes of R-rated classics, graphic violence and swearing is missed. Seeing someone getting shot without a single drop of blood is not only unrealistic, it's also boring.

I always have and always will prefer R-rated movies because they're more fun and I hate cencorship in general.

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Lots of good points. I prefer R movies just because they are less restrictive. You can have a R movie that would fit in the PG13 category, but you can't have a PG13 movie that with R elements. There are plenty of movies that suffer from trying to fit into that PG13 category and sacrificing important elements to do so.

I think most of here can agree that the rating was not the thing that made Point Break 2015 fail. If they had gone for an R rating, we probably would have seen the exact same plot but with more nudity in the sex scene and a bit more violence in Bodhi's crews deaths.

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We complain because we hate it when adult oriented material is severely watered down to please the fast and furious crowd, censorship is incredibly annoying, the expendables 3 got *beep* on because of it

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The robocop and total recall remakes also got *beep* on too

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