So, in the end, we are supposed to believe that Judas was not only her uncle but also her dad, correct? At first, I thought the twist is supposed to make the viewer believe that it was her father, not her uncle.
shareYes, he was both. Because Annie see the birth certificates of both her mom and "Judas" from the archive dude, showing they (her "mother" and Judas) were born at the same hospital a few years apart (with the same last name, of course).
shareI didn't see any indication of this. They made mention frequently that when things get tough people run. They were under some sort of impression that the man they knew as dad took off. What is a lot more likely is that the mother is just as violent as brother and killed him. The man killed but you didn't see regular bodies there. He only had the newest three. No one there to dispose of the bodies perhaps? The mother is known to be cruel to her daughters, likely murdered the father, and definitely hid bodies for her brother.
I assumed that the girls were told by their mother that their father ran off when they were too young to remember (because Judas could not of course hang around as a father for several obvious reasons). That kind of "he left when you were young" story is old as day.
Of course, did the movie explicitly say that was the truth behind the girl's belief/statement their father had run off when things got hard? No. But if Judas was no relation to the girls, why bother with the blue/green eye thing? If Judas was not their father, that was a very important...red herring. Doesn't make any sense to be in the movie at all in that case.
IMHO, clearly there was a point to the rare eye characteristic shared by all.
My interpretation is that the mom and uncle had an incestous relationship and knew all along that her brother was a serial killer. She wanted to protect him and stop him from killing, so she hid them under the house. telling her children that their father (uncle) ran off, when in reality she was keeping him hidden under the house because they had a pact to protect him in exchange to stop murdering. When the girls were "bad" the mom would hide them in the closet, but in reality it was to let Judas out to eat and bathe and stuff like that.
sharethey wouldn't hae bothered with the eye thing if he wasn't her father.
shareJudas was their uncle. I don't think he was their father. The different color eyes could be some genetic trait of the family.
shareThe problem with that is heterochromia being an autosomal dominant trait. This means there is a strong implication that Judas is the father. Annie's real father, if not Judas, would also have to conveniently be an affected male (meaning he also displayed that trait) considering their mother does not (or is at least shown to not) have it. It's not something that you can carry and pass on without showing.
There are also non-genetic causes, but I highly doubt the writer would go to such length to show us that they share a trait only for hers to be genetic but his coming from disease or injury.
I sorta got the idea that some incest was going on. It wasn't exactly clear.
shareI don't get why people think he was her dad, they need to learn how genetics works imo.. my mom is a red head and my dad has black hair, mine is brown. Am I adopted? No.
shareIf I'm not mistaken, hair and eye color are on different alleles and work differently.
Brown eyes are dominant and so to increase the chances of blue or green eyed offspring, one or both parents would have to have that colored eyes. I did not notice the two different eye colors watching this on Netflix with my laptop at 3 am in the dark, but two separate eye colors is even more rare and would pretty much prove Judas is her father. What are the chances that the father, being some other guy, would also happen to have two separate eye colors?
Also, for the sake of there being a "twist" in the movie, Judas being Judy's brother (and therefore the girls' uncle) is obvious, but him being the father is a "twist."
I don't think Judas was supposed to be her dad as well as her uncle. At least, Annie did not see it that way. At the very end, she is writing in a journal. If you pause and read the words, she seems to be writing about her father who left. A few thought she wrote were things like, "I hope he was able to start a new life". Maybe she wonders if her father found out about Judas and took off in disgust, though he is a loser for leaving his girls in that house.
IMO, Judas killed daddy, maybe when he discovered his hidaway. Mommy told girls that daddy just left, still covering for Judas.
Annie probably doesn't understand the implication or is aware of the basics of how genetics work when there is a dominant trait like heterochromia being passed along. It seems many don't and are in the same position she is... as evidenced by the many people who have had it stuck in their face and somehow still don't think that's what the reveal is saying.
Otherwise, what the film is saying is that her real father just so happens to have had the same condition as her Uncle and passed it to her or that her real father passed it along to her but maybe her Uncle just so happened to have a disease or injury that caused an acquired heterochromia. Maybe one of the two were afflicted with chimerism that happened to display in that manner. Or maybe Annie suffered a head injury herself on her motorcycle and now displays heterchromia because of it... which just so happens to be what her Uncles genetic mutation displays.
If you ask me, that's a lot of coincidental nonsense to bother with within the narrative *unless* the purpose of showing it is specifically to imply that Uncle Judas *is* her real father.
What's that old saying about sometimes the simplest or most obvious answer being the right one?
Occam's razor. It's a priciple that states that among competing hypotheses, the hypothesis with the fewest assumptions should be selected. For what it's worth, I completely agree. There really is no point in putting emphasis on the uncle's eyes if it wasn't to show that he was also her father, at the very least.
Man, everyone's gay once in awhile! It's Hollywood!
I believe the only reason for the different colour eyes is to let us know that Judas was watching Nicole from the first time she entered the house in the begining.
shareIf the Dad just left when they were kids why did they all have the last name Barlow?
If they were in some kind of deadbeat husband/dad situation then wouldn't the kids have his last name? Since Barlow is very clearly the mothers maiden name (it was also Charles/Judas' last name)...I don't know maybe the Mom changed her name back to Barlow after the real Dad left or was murdered or whatever. Maybe they were never married, maybe I'm being nitpicky.
Yeah just a tad nit picky. When my parents married my mom kept her maiden name... Us girls got her last name and my brothers got my dads last name. People do it however they want. There are no rules to names when married.
shareMaybe not rules, but there are normalities, and in their situation at that time it would have been strange
shareas far as the eye thing, off the top of my head Mila Kunis, Jane Seymour, and David Bowie have different-colored eyes. If this is a dominant trait, then Judas could be the uncle, and Annie inherited it from her Mom who was a carrier (and presumably her father had same-color eyes). On the other hand, if this is a recessive trait, then the only way she could've inherited it would've been from 2 recessives, or a dominant and recessive - a much stronger case for the uncle also being the father.
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