Note to Brad Pitt next time he tries a Canadian accent...
We don't sound like we're from Texas. Just keep it in mind next time.
shareWe don't sound like we're from Texas. Just keep it in mind next time.
shareIn his defense, people do pick up accents when they are living elsewhere for a period of time, intentionally or unintentionally.
It didn't sound Texan, by the way.
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I just thought he sounded southern generally because he has been hanging out in the south for sometime. He said he was born in Canada, maybe he left a long time ago.
shareSamuel Bass was born in 1807 and left Upper Canada when he was in his thirties. Bass spent time in Illinois and 3 or 4 years in the South. There's no telling what his accent would be, but it would likely be "Canadian" if you could call it that. It's unlikely he would have a Southern accent. Adults usually retain their accent. Pitt sounded more American western "pioneer" to my ears. I am guessing the actual Bass would have sounded more British colonial.
shareThrough all the long and hard to watch scenes of varying shades of torture at the hands of humanity at it's lowest...it's portrayal of an accurate Canadian accent is what you wanted to note...you, Person Who Has No Awards Or Recognition for Acting.
The priorities of people...
Sweet baby, I need fresh blood...
I agree that the accent is trivial and irrelevant to the big picture. I was just making a historical comment which wasn't meant to detract from the importance of the film's themes. Bass was heroic. I didn't mean to criticize Pitt or the film. Mea culpe, sorry.
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I don't remember what the character said in the movie, but the actual Bass had been away from Canada for about 12 years. He lived with Canadian family members in Illinois for most of that time. Adults seldom lose their accent after living in one place for their first thirty-odd years. Actors can change their accent, but regular folks seldom bother.
shareThis simply isn't true. Some people will have their accent changed after only a short period in another place. Others will cling to it tenaciously. I live in Australia, which is a multicultural society with people from just about everywhere, and it is astonishing how migrants demonstrate enormous variation in their accents. I have encountered siblings with different accents; for example, a brother with the Scottish accent of his homeland and his sister with a broad Australian accent.
The reverse also applies. When Greg Norman moved to the US he seemed to lose his Australian accent in all of 5 minutes. He probably couldn't even fake one today. And he is no orphan in that regard.
I am not so sure we disagree Jacinto, you may have misunderstood my argument. Maybe it was my Canadian accent, ha, ha. My point was that there was no way of knowing Bass' accent, but most older adults don't lose their accent, some do, some don't. Young people will lose their accent fairly quickly, often on purpose to sound like those around them. In 1850 there wasn't the ever-present media where we hear a country's standard English constantly in our ear. People would hear their family members mostly. People in one area would sound much more alike than today. Regional differences would be huge in a big country.
I would agree with one writer who said that the accent is not so important in a compelling film like this. We shouldn't complain about Pitt's accent since nobody knows what Bass sounded like. Freud said about small things creating the most estrangement..."narcissism of minor differences" ...like accents. People are different, which makes life more interesting, how boring if everyone looked and spoke the same. You say, "migrants demonstrate enormous variations in their accents".: My point exactly! Many keep their accents and never lose them. (We all have accents to someone else's ear.) I laugh when people claim they don't have an accent.
If everyone lost their accent easily, wouldn't migrants all sound "Aussie"? I was recently in Austria and said "G'Day" to everyone and no one said "G'Day" back, so much for stereotypes. (Sorry, love that Dumb and Dumber joke.) Did the brother and sister you mentioned arrive in Australia at different ages (likely young ages)? Bass arrived in the South in his middle to old age (for those days) over 42, a strong-willed, opinionated, stubborn man unlikely to change his mind or accent to fit in with those around him. He spoke out against slavery in an area where you could get shot for opinions like that. People put up with his argumentative nature because he was well-liked and a good-worker. This is the actual person Samuel Bass I am writing about.
Greg Norman at times sounds Aussie to a North American ear. You can hear it in the "r's" and he has been in the U.S. most of his life, not 3 years like Bass in the South. In 1850 most people sounded like their parents.
Yes, the accent is a trivial point and not a good reason to attack the film or Pitt. You can't please everyone. I was trying to point out the story of this actual, living, extraordinary person Samuel Bass who in his own small way did the right thing in a difficult time and place and changed history, an example for all of us, a hero. One person in their day can have a butterfly effect. Bass helped free Solomon who escaped slavery to write a book which helped the anti-slavery movement which was a part of the Civil War and the end to slavery in the U.S eventually.
I was born and raised in California. I lived in Ohio for three years during my early 30s and have been told by others that they could hear a Midwestern twang...whatever that is...when I returned to California. I think after living in a certain region for a while, it's easy to pick up the local vernacular
shareDidn't he say he had been traversing the US for 25 years or something.
I read this in a chola accent.share