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No wonder Blacks hate Whites


How could you not after watching so many if these types of films . I belive it just the fact that everything was manipulated just out in public with absolutely no authority--even the bible . I don't even see how they could still be a Christin after knowing all this .

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So, by your logic, I should hate English people because they bought the family's of my Hessian (German) forefathers and then made them come fight in the American Revolution which is how part of my family got here. Of course, those Hessians were then bought by the Americans and killed British and had their families sent to Baltimore.

Should I also hate Americans for turning my Irish immigrant relatives into coal mining slaves? They were whipped, beaten and called every name in the book.

This puts me in trouble, because the rest are from England, except for one single relative who was part of Washington's guard from Switzerland. One dude. Got his leg chopped off and we still have the sword he got. Pretty cool. (sarcasm)

You make no damn sense.

You hate Italians because of the slaves kept in Rome? Greeks because of what happened in that time? Germans because of concentration camps? Africans because of what is done there? Eastern Europe because of the sex trading? I'll stop.

It's a film. If your mind is so easily swayed by something like this, maybe you should stick to PG projects or fart flicks.

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I think the movie is an exaggeration. Anybody that has ever had a job, knows that a horrible boss isn't good for business. You can whip people all you want, but it's better practice to have the workers on your side. I'm sure some abuse existed, but often wasn't the case.

This movie is trying portray ALL slave-owners (and by extension white Americans of the time) as being devils, with no human emotion.

Of course, you also have to realize the un-PC idea that maybe some slaves were really bad, but of course, their slave condition was unjust anyways.

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For instance, the scene where the master whips the black lady almost to her death. In reality, doing so would have created an incredibly unfriendly working environment. Of course, you couldn't make slaves love you, but steps could be made so that they can tolerate you. Anyhow, any master that psychotic shouting "It's my property and I can do what I want!" Well, how idiotic is that? People don't even treat their dogs that cruel, much less people they thought at the time were highly inferior.


I think the movie is an exaggeration. Anybody that has ever had a job, knows that a horrible boss isn't good for business. You can whip people all you want, but it's better practice to have the workers on your side. I'm sure some abuse existed, but often wasn't the case.

This movie is trying portray ALL slave-owners (and by extension white Americans of the time) as being devils, with no human emotion.

Of course, you also have to realize the un-PC idea that maybe some slaves were really bad, but of course, their slave condition was unjust anyways.


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hahaha um what? I think you missed the giant part of the story being a true experience of one man, an actual man, and what happened to him. None of it was exaggerated. t was his personal experience of what happened to him and he had the scars on his back to prove it. How callous to deny someone their truth because you don't like the idea of white people doing evil acts against other human beings.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to empathize with black people and their experiences. People want to say we are past racism, but this thread just proves that we aren't.

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Yes, you're right. Three incidents in the movie, which includes the attempted rape on the boat and the black man being stabbed, were false.

HOWEVER, that doesn't mean the movie was being dishonest to Solomon's story. Having read it myself, I can say the movie was nearly exact in the characterization of the slave owners and the circumstances of Solomon's life. His relationship with central characters like Epps was not fabricated. That's the problem. For some reason, a large majority of the responders here seem to think that the characterizations of the white slave holders in this movie were exeggerated, and that just was not true.

Further more, rapes happened against black women all the time. They were not considered human, so it wasn't even considered rape to the penetrators. The fact that over 90% of African Americans in this country carry some sort of caucasian blood in them is truth enough to the ugly history of sexual violence against colored women.

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So what if that one incident isn't true? The TRUTH is many black slave women were repeatedly raped by white slavemasters!

Jesus NEVER existed! He is Judeo Christian MYTH!

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So what if that one incident isn't true? The TRUTH is many black slave women were repeatedly raped by white slavemasters!
Not all white slave owners were fat and stupid-looking, morally weak or sexually frustrated and unhappily married. And not all abolitionists were handsome and dashing like Brad Pitt. Likewise, not all slaves were noble, dignified or deep thinkers.

The movie is not an accurate telling of history. It is not a window into the past. It's a political, propaganda piece designed to make people as disgusted with slavery as much as Steve McQueen is. But in order to do that, he realized he couldn't show any white southerners dancing or listening to music or doing anything that creates automatic sympathy from the audience nor could he show any black slaves telling jokes, sharing stories, or doing anything that gives the audience the impression that slaves had any relief from pain in their lives. Nor could he show too many of them with unattractive traits.

In other words, just about every one of the characters in the film are a stereotype.

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What is you obsession with African-Americans, you poor, poor woman. You've had this discussion before and tou've learned NOTHING.

Don't explain with malice what you can explain with stupidity

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This movie is trying portray ALL slave-owners (and by extension white Americans of the time) as being devils, with no human emotion.


Did we watch the same film? Solomon works for three slave-owners.

Ebbs is an alcoholic sadist but Mr. Ford and the Judge seem like normal decent men to me.

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I never owned slaves.

I never oppressed nor discriminated against a black person because of their skin color.

Don't ever blame me for something that I have never done. Don't judge me for things that I haven't done.

At the same time, I will say this; Have white people been the nicest, most thoughtful and considerate group of people of all time? HELL NO, and this movie proves that to a great extent. Don't you ever let those racist, neo-Nazis/skinned try to tell you otherwise. I think white "supremacy" and the ideal of white nationalism is complete and utter bullshît nonsense. No race is perfect.



Save the trees! Wipe your ass with an owl!

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"These people". You sound like a bigot. I doubt if you have any "white guilt". A true racist does not have any guilt whatsoever.

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Or you really trolling, or are you seriously this fcking stupid?

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Although I am sick and tired of people calling every movie "racist" these days, I have to say that your comment was quite racist.

Are you painting all white people with the same brush?
That is incredibly small minded.

A little from my point of view...
We never even had slaves where I live. (So how does it make sense to dislike me because of my skin colour?)
I have had negative encounters with a certain type of people that could have scarred me for life, but I don't necessarily have those feelings toward anyone with similar characteristics.
The world doesn't begin and end with the US.
Not all of us have connections there, and even if we did that doesn't mean we or our families had anything to do with slavery.

This is not an anti-white movie.
Of course I feel no guilt because I happen to be white.
That is ridiculous.
My heart goes out to the protagonist just the same.

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Hahaha what? No. The majority of black women want to be married with black men and have black children. Not sure where you're getting your assumptions from, but it's completely false.

White women have always been the beauty ideal across the world since colonialization. There's a reason why Africans bleach their skin to become lighter and Asians have surgery on their eye lids to look more western. Unfortunately, people have it in their heads that there's only one kind of beauty (and that's just not true).

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What you have to understand about the film industry is that it's full of liberals who look down on their own heritage and culture. They continually change history to make the West look bad and everyone else look good. They make countless films showing all the sins of Western Civilization (and making some up as they go along) but make few film that show the sins of other cultures.

Anyone who has ever taken the time to study world history would not have a guilt trip watching films like this. They'd realize that people have been treating each other like this since recorded history.

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So, by your way of thought I should hate all white people that are British, since they enslaved my German AND Irish ancestors? They killed and raped many of them. My great, great, great, great grandfather was the product of a wealthy Colonial Brit raping my great, great, great, great, great Irish slave grandmother.

Does that mean I should hate my British side of the family?

Also, part of my family were Hessian slaves. Should I hate British and Americans for enslaving them during the Revolutionary War?

I guess by your logic, I should just kill about 75% of my body because at one point, it was slave owned by another part of my DNA.

So no, I wouldn't have any idea why "blacks would hate whites because of this film".

I would have an idea of why any people would be disgusted by the fact that slavery in any way, shape or form was and is tolerated in his world.

Your assertion simply empowers people to waste energy on things that happened in the past and cannot be changed and/or controlled.

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Everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you hate an entire race based on a small percentage of that race doing something horrible for a period of time long before anyone you know ever lived then you are showing yourself to be as unintelligent as a slave holder. As you can see from the movie that all whites were not bad and if it weren't for white people he would have died a slave. If it weren't for white people dying in the civil war there might be slavery to this day. But if black people want to hate white people because of a movie than go ahead but it won't get you to far in this life.

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