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Movie full of terrible women


Every female in this movie is useless, a coward, a whore, a user, or all of the above.

Exhibits:

A) Cindy, main female character, after being kidnapped and assaulted by the killer, she repeatedly, and obnoxiously, tries to flee like Marcellus Wallace is chasing her. Nic Cage repeatedly tells her that he needs her to catch said killer, and that other girls will die if she flees. Well, that's their problem. To hell with them.

B) Woman at stripper club who decides to get Cindy hooked on meth so that she can strip for cash. A true humanitarian!

C) Wife of Nic Cage. Get the ho-bag, meth-head, stripper chick out of our house. But she is the lone eyewitness who can stop a serial killer from preying on other young women. Well, that's their problem. To hell with them.

D) Wife of killer. Just sit down and shut up and do what I tell you. Okay, honey. I'm going to be gone a lot, days even, torturing and murdering young women. Don't be concerned about it. Even if you see a steel peg in the post downstairs, fit to anchor a chain to, don't worry about that. You just stay at home, take care of the kids, and don't ask any questions. Okay, honey.


Caring souls all.

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1. First, there is the idea that a young person in such a situation would usually act in the way that is portrayed in the movie. Plus, she had a history of running away to solve her problems. The scene where she mentions her childhood and the uncle is key to this. She escaped him by running away from home. The strategy worked for her; she survived. It's only natural to try to repeat it. Two, it's easy for us sitting here in the comfort of our homes to say, "If that was me, I would have done this or that" But you never truly know until you're there yourself.

2. Her stripper friend was an addict herself. Crystal Meth was her way of dealing with the world she was a part of. Maybe she genuinely thought it would make Cindy's life easier.

3. Mitchell's character, I'll admit upfront even I felt was strange and a little irrational.

4. Fran (wife of Cusack's character) is such a minor role. I think you could scoop up all the prostitutes and dancers and strippers and offer them up as evidence of a movie full of terrible women.

I'm not sure how close this movie is to the actual events that transpired between 1971 and 1983 but the world is full of terrible women (and good ones and some various shades of 'in between'). This movie deals with a specific cross section of the human females in this world.

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Wow, you are such an expert on women.

A) Cindy, main female character, after being kidnapped and assaulted by the killer, she repeatedly, and obnoxiously, tries to flee like Marcellus Wallace is chasing her. Nic Cage repeatedly tells her that he needs her to catch said killer, and that other girls will die if she flees. Well, that's their problem. To hell with them.

B) Woman at stripper club who decides to get Cindy hooked on meth so that she can strip for cash. A true humanitarian!


You obviously don't understand how damaged Cindy, the other strippers and most likely some of his other victims probably were and how they get caught up in the sex industry due to past lives filled with abuse. They didn't just turn into evil people on their own.

C) Wife of Nic Cage. Get the ho-bag, meth-head, stripper chick out of our house. But she is the lone eyewitness who can stop a serial killer from preying on other young women. Well, that's their problem. To hell with them.


Did you even watch all of the movie which shows she comes around later in the movie and helps him to help Cindy because she knows this is the only thing he knows how to do? They had a young child which I am sure had a lot to do with her initial reaction in not wanting a known prostitute in their home but then realized it was something he HAD to do and showed she would help him to help Cindy.

D) Wife of killer. Just sit down and shut up and do what I tell you. Okay, honey. I'm going to be gone a lot, days even, torturing and murdering young women. Don't be concerned about it. Even if you see a steel peg in the post downstairs, fit to anchor a chain to, don't worry about that. You just stay at home, take care of the kids, and don't ask any questions. Okay, honey.


The wife was completely unaware of what her husband was doing. In the real story he was described as a church going local business owner who was held in esteem in the community. He is the one who was capable of leading a double life. From her point of view and from everyone else's who knew him he was apparently able to convince them he was a stand-up guy outwardly and they had no reason to think he was committing these horrible crimes--that is common behavior with sociopaths who commit these types of crimes. The peg you were describing is not something anyone would think anything about since he did not exhibit outward signs that he was capable of committing these heinous crimes.

But, since you have such a profound understanding of women I doubt any of this changes your opinion.

I am glad you did not comment on the serial killer and his behavior though and how aberrant and abhorrent HIS behavior was since the blame clearly lies with the women in the movie.

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How far into your menstraul cycle were you when you posted this?

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I see you couldn't come up with an answer to the argument. Yes women have menstrual cycles. Your mother had them, that was why she was able to give birth to you.

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This is a little off topic, but I didn't care for Jack's (Cage) wife's total 180 between her two major scenes.

She's there a bit in the beginning, but the next we see of her she's adamantly arguing for turning an 18 year old girl who's being pursued by a serial killer out on the street...and then later in the movie her final scene has her straight up saying "forget moving you're a good cop let's stay here so you can protect those poor girls."

Really jarring shift in opinion that I think could have been cut.

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Agreed - it's as if some focus group found her too unlikeable, so they added that scene.

OTOH, part of the point of that scene was her dealing with the fact that Jack was going to remain a cop (which he did IRL).

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And that would make the men who pay to be with these useless, cowardly, whores what then?

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I agree with all the responses that point out they are simply women that made the decisions they thought best at the time they made them. I didn't see "terrible" women. I saw flawed people, women and men, who were doing what they thought was best at the time. Not very many people will put themselves in harm's way to help others, regardless of what they say or *think* they might do. I have done it but it's not always an easy choice. Not many people, myself included, would put their own family, especially minor children, in harm's way, to help someone else. I will gladly feed the homeless, help someone look for a job, "adopt" people through various causes, but I wouldn't hesitate to draw the line at having someone, especially someone of questionable morals, staying under the same roof with my children.




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What did you expect? The movie was based on a true story. Real people are flawed and make terrible choices quite often. Some are even downright cruel and horrible to each other. Try stepping outside once in a while.

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