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So how much money did Frank win in the settlement...??

posted 11 years ago by mic7440
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You know...after he sued the police department for searching and bugging his house without warrant, allowing a civilian to go along on the search and bug mission, police drawing weapons on his son, harassing Frank simply on the grounds that he was an ex-con without any hardcore evidence to support their suspicion, constantly insulting and allowing Jake to insult Frank based on his past, accusing the Robot of being an accomplice, and attempting to confiscate personal effects and the memory of Robot again without any substantial evidence and what seems to have been without official documentation giving them permission to do so. Not only that, but they then let Frank escape because they didn't have the grounds fully secured, and they never really went after him when he drove off. All that sounds like a severe misuse of authority, harassment, and unprofessional behavior. I'm sure a lawyer would have eaten them alive ESPECIALLY since there was no evidence to back them up or even justify their suspicion of Frank.

[–] omoxus 11 years ago

This was touched on before. It was a weak point for a few. The explanation is that, the rich and powerful make the rules.

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[–] mic7440 11 years ago

That explanation doesn't fly. If word had gotten out, especially since his daughter and son were both witnesses, those cops would have had their butts handed to them by even the most inept lawyer.

[–] Hackstall 11 years ago

mic7440, could not agree with you more. The fact that "Jake" was leading the investigation was a farce. As a career criminal, Frank would be well versed in even his most basic rights. It took the story out of the realm of possibility for me. The story could have easily been written so that this part was realistic.

I suppose the argument is that it is the future and the laws have been changed so that people have less privacy rights.

[–] justwrite3 11 years ago

Yeah, it was a bit over the top, but overbearing rich guy, small town... the concept isn't that implausible.

Of course Frank would know his rights. It's no coincidence that the final scenes take place in an ordinary assisted living facility, not a prison. And for all we know, lawsuits and countersuits galore were being played out.

[–] jdstewart 11 years ago

In the near future, there are no privacy rights. ;-)

[–] Jameron 10 years ago

"You know...after he sued the police department for searching and bugging his house without warrant" - mic7440

We don't know they bugged his house, this was just an assumption by Frank. Did we see any cops listening on equipment in the van? They don't need to be parked in full view of the house in order to do that.

Did you miss the part when Frank invited them in to search his house (because he knew it was clean, and the fruitless search would support his claims of innocence)? Thereby negating the requirement of a warrant.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e3tGxnFKfE

http://tinyurl.com/LTROI-story

[–] mic7440 10 years ago

Go back and watch the movie before you comment. You obviously missed some very important parts.

[–] Jameron 10 years ago

"Go back and watch the movie before you comment. You obviously missed some very important parts." - mic7440

Lol. Go to timestamp 1:09:27 and you will hear Frank utter those most welcome words (welcome by the police, of course) "Would you like to come in?", when addressing the police on his lawn. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you invite the police into your home, they no longer need a warrant, not to mention that they have probable cause, which is enough justification to enter your home without a warrant anyway, right? Once you let them in, consent to search is implied unless you expressly forbid it, Frank did not expressly forbid it.

Be so kind as to provide a timestamp that shows the police bugging Frank's house.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e3tGxnFKfE

http://tinyurl.com/LTROI-story

[–] clever-username 10 years ago

Also, after the first sherif's visit, Frank quickly identified the mistake (robot led them through the house, essentially inviting them through, while escorting them out).
It was clear Frank understood his rights and saw where he surrendered them.

I thought it was particularly well written how a good cop didn't badger and intimidate, that was the rich, stupid victim.

[–] OccamsBarber 10 years ago

This is set in the near future. They will have finished the final gutting of the 4th amendment by then.

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