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More comparable with the Joker than with The Dark Knight etc.


The Batman clearly was influenced by Taxi Driver (Reeves even wrote the script listening to its soundtrack) as Joker was. While, with the exception of Batman Returns, all previous movies, and especially The Dark Knight, are more action/entertainment focussed, both, The Joker and The Batman focus on an outsider finding his purpose/place in life which, by the way, is the premise of nearly all Batman characters. The Riddler, as portrayed, is no exception to this.

I find this approach of the hero character hassling with depression more satisfying as to watch yet another cheerful Bruce (Keaton, Bale, ...). Having a little more background of Martha Wayne/Arkham was also a nice touch. To me, Batmans revelation scene here is when he decides to jump after beating Riddlers henchmen.

Nevertheless, except for the impact on the road and a bullet proof Batman, in general, I enjoyed the action elements, especially the realistic fist fighting and the immersive presentation of the car chase.

Plot wise there clearly are some issues as already mentioned by others. To point some out:
- Why is the police attacking and even shooting at Batman but forgets about it some scenes later?
- Why should the Riddler attack the people in his final move?
- Why is Alfred opening an ominous package sent to a billionaire?
- Where did Selina went after talking with Falcone? She vanished until the shooting scene with Oz.
- Why did Bruce paint his floor and why did he not further look into the renewal files?

Still, overall I found it enjoyable and entertaining to forget about the 3 hour landmark.

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I think the movie is trying to be different from the batman movies before, in the basic messages or theme.

Nolan's batman was about vengeance and the power of fear. It was closer to real life than the ones before, but still has it's cartoonish elements. The secret shadow ninjas destroying corrupt cities throughout history, the weird drug and weird microwave weapon, etc.

This movie is even closer to reality than before, even with the dark themes.

It is a process of revelation. At the beginning the batman was lost. He spent 2 years at nights beating up criminals but he did not think he made a difference.

The riddler showed up, telling him through gruesome murders that it was the corrupted Gotham elites causing those problems.

If you read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School-to-prison_pipeline you would know it has relevance. Who would've thought private prison industry pushing for "zero tolerance policies" in public schools was one of the key reasons of crime problems in US?

In the end the message became "I need to be more than vengeance, because that did not work, I must be a symbol of hope".

How far would they take that message, how would they express it, that is something we can find out in the following movies.

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