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A 24 years old girl running for mayor???


I immediately pause the movie when I saw the girl to google her age, because she looks too young.

24? Mayor?

For a movie about Batman, that is the most unrealistic thing for me.

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You are kidding, right? The unrealistic thing for me is what looked like a decent person can get elected. Our political system only allows politicians taking corporate money to get elected, or to even be a viable candidate to begin with, so only "morally flexible" kind of people can get elected.

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You answer your question by saying "LOOKED LIKE a decent person."

Who know what she will become in sequel...

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You might have noticed in this movie, the notable black characters are all decent people. I don't think there was even a corrupted black elite, so I took a shot.

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Yeah, that was pretty heavy handed. A real weakness to the plot. At least make her... an attractive middle aged woman.

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Or just a middle-aged woman. No need to be attractive. Non-attractive middle-aged women are super underrepresented in movies.

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez served US congress at 29.

John Tyler Hammons served as the 47th Mayor of Muskogee, Oklahoma at 19, a freshman at the University of Oklahoma.

So does it really even need to make her middle aged?

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Ugh! Alexandria Cotrtez is a fool and so is everyone who voted for her. The policies she supports would destroy the economy! Anyway, the young African American woman running for Mayor was okay in my book.

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I just want for non-attractive women to be represented more in movies. We have non-attractive men (Steve Buscemi, Danny Trejo, Tim Curry, Mickey Rourke, etc.) in various movies all the fucking time since like foreverrrr.

It's unfair for non-attractive actresses when movies keep casting only attractive women for roles (in this case, female politicians) that are predominantly occupied by middle-aged and relatively unattractive unsexy women in real life.

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That is an exaggeration I am sure.

There are always women like Whoopi Goldberg, Allison Janney, Beth Hall, Jane Kaczmarek, Maggie Wheeler and Danielle Brooks, etc.

The list goes on and on.

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You are the one exaggerating.

In fact, they should have cast Whoopi Goldberg as the woman running for mayor in this movie in my opinion.

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Viola Davis is probably more appropriate.

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She would. But she already plays a character in a DC franchise so I guess she's not even considered. It would be too confusing to the audience.

Except if she's wearing extensive make-over like Colin Farell. Though it's probably overkill.

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Yeah, I forgot about Amanda Waller was a DC character already.

Then again deep state can come out into the spotlight. It is not like Mike Pompeo won't run for president.

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I'd have said CCH Pounder, but then I wouldn't believe that she needed help kicking ass. I'd keep waiting for her to throw on a bat-suit and stand back-to-back with Bruce.

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I get what you mean. Somehow the only unattractive women I can think of in a movie are the cook in Clue, Connie in Die Hard with a Vengeance, The overweight woman in Precious and Tower Heist, and the overweight woman in Cold Mountain.

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The mom in What's Eating Gilbert Grape.

Part of the problem is that, when they are cast, they are cast to be unattractive. Like the woman in Precious - she's cast to look fat. She isn't allowed to play outside of that.

We can see the opposite with guys. Jack Black in The Holiday, for instance, gets to be a rom-com (co) lead.

There are occasional "plain" women who get a break (Frances McDormand), but they are rare.

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I get what you mean. I admit Connie in Die Hard is Colleen Camp who was Yvette in Clue. So she might not count. Either she just didn't age well in 10 years or they did some things to make her look less attractive.

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Getting elected to Congress is a lot easier than getting elected mayor of Gotham (assume it's New York City).
There are 435 representatives in the House, each representing fewer than 1 million people.
NYC has a population of close to 9 million. It's more like getting elected governor in most states.
NYC has more people than 39 of the 50 states.

And you can't just run a few TV ads or walk door-to-door to win people over. You would need to curry favor with all the special interests in a major city -- developers, business associations, public employee unions, etc.

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Wall street and a lot of big businesses are also headquartered in New York. I don't know how important the local legislation is to them, and how much public money is at mayor's disposal, but I bet there are significant corporate interests in the mayor's election as well.

Letting those people to understand the "soundness" of a candidate does require some experience I suppose.

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Running a major city like Gotham requires a lot more experience than being a representative or mayor of Muskogee (pop. 36,000)

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Running a city? Not really. Government does not require politicians to run, I think actually more in spite of them.

I think that is why there is no compulsory working hours for politicians. If the elected congressmen, senators, mayors do not show up to work at all in their entire terms, it is probably perfectly all right.

Politicians are there to decide the allocation of public money and implement "policies" their backers wanted. I think that is why they show up at all. That is what they are there for.

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your insight is amazing

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Thanks, you are very kind.

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Did AOC served as the resident clown? Because it sure as hell looked like it.

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And super over-represented in mayoral positions.

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I agree, but I think it was also kind of a plot twist. I expected her to be behind the Riddler in the end.

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There is a possibility that it was her feeding the "Renewal file" to the riddler, in a bid to remove the competition.

Then again it is hard to predict what the riddler would have done with the information. The riddler looked very harmless before he started killing.

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That would be a wonderful twist for the sequel. That would wonderfully subvert expectations of her being a Mary Sue, pure of heart.

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What really didn't make sense was that if the mob was as powerful as portrayed, how was there even an opposing candidate standing a chance against them? Wouldn't they have had anyone running against them bribed, threatened, or murdered? We saw nothing about that.

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A good question. IMO, the issue is that these movies are sort of stuck as reflections of the comic books of the 70s.

Thus, as they exaggerate certain aspects of that time, like powerful organized crime, for dramatic story telling, the relationships between say, organized crime and the rest of society, doesn't fit anymore.

BTW, I've noted this effect in other movies too.


BUT, a generous person could point out, that the power of the mob here, was based on it's control being secret.

The tv show Daredevil handled this well, with the control of the city by the Kingpin. When it was finally challenged, they had the FEDS coming in and arresting everyone.

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Oh thats easy. Look at Obama. In 2008 the democrats were dead set on getting Hillary elected as the president. But Obama organized enough grass roots support that they had nothing to do but to give up for 8 years and let Obama take the spot. They went all in in 2016 with the same con, not realizing that Clinton was the problem to begin with.

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Well she’s black in woke America. So she comes with the kind of special diversity hire privilege that is greater than anything.

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"Special diversity hire privilege is strong, but not as strong as FAMILY."
- Real Racer Dominic 'Dom' Toretto

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