This looks fantastic
As a life long die hard Batman fan, everything we have seen so far in regards to promotional material looks incredible and pure Batman to me. That second trailer was just fantastic. Really can't wait for this.
shareI agree wholeheartedly!
shareYeah everything we have seen so far just screams Batman. The cinematography, production design, bleak tone, and pure awesomeness that we have seen from the trailers thus far is just pure Batman.
shareYes exactly. I knew from the moment Matt Reeves was announced as the director we were in for something good. Matt Reeves loves dark brooding stories. Check out his planet of the Apes films and his Let Me in vampire film. Reeves likes dark and brooding characters which is exactly what Batman is. I love that it has a gothic tone and the fact that it has a crow vibe to it. Seems to have a bit more style we have been lacking for Batman lately. The casting is spot on! Pattinson is a great actor and his work on the lighthouse and Good Time show he is a great pick for a mentally disturbed character like Batman. Paul Dano as Riddler excellent! Serkis as Alfred great, Kravitz looks stunning as Catwoman. I love that we are getting Catwoman right off the bat also. The fights look great and the music sounds amazing. I am getting a little bit of the animated series vibes as well. The cinematographer is the same cinematographer as the cinematographer of the new Dune.
shareMatt Reeves is the right man for sure. I have seen his Planet of the Apes trilogy and it is fantastic, as well as Cloverfield and this looks like he is bringing in his horror elements from Cloverfield into this.
Your definitely right about the style. The visual elements featured in this film just looks right out of a Batman comic. The Nolan films are great and The Dark Knight is my favorite comic book film ever but I will admit, those films kinda do lack the visionary elements that we would get in a modern Batman comic. This film honestly looks like style of the Arkham games, which imo is the best depiction of Batman and Gotham ever.
I definitely can't wait to see what Dano brings to this. He is fantastic and I loved him in Prisoners. As well as Kravitz as Catwoman. She looks fantastic and yeah, Greg Fraisers cinematography is fantastic and I can't wait to see what he does with this and Dune.
Awesome, yeah the planet of the Apes trilogy in my book is one of the best and underrated trilogies. The apes trilogy was so fantastic, Dawn and War are some of my favorite films of all time. It is a shame the new Star Wars trilogy made more money when the apes trilogy was a far better trilogy.
I could not agree more man, you are preaching to the choir. I absolutely adore The Dark Knight it is my favorite comic book film also. Thing is I will admit Nolan's realism while good does strip the character of some of the style we are used to seeing. Also 100% bang on! The arkham games are literally Batman done to it's full potential. That is THE Batman of the comic books on the screen. It gets every element down, the darkness, the grittiness but also the fantasy elements. The issue I had with Nolan's Batman movies as well was I never thought the fight choreography was great. See in Batman Begins it is too close up and edited too quickly. It was reminiscent of that trend of fights at the time where shaky cam and quick cuts came into the mix. In The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises the fights are more comprehensible but the choreography while not bad I feel is just not done great. I know it is tough because the Batman suit is heavy and lacks mobility. I mean it was not until The Dark Knight where the actor could actually turn his head. All Batman films before that the actor could not turn his head. Either way I always felt the choreography like I said while competent just could have been a bit better.
Oh Dano is bang on. Loved him in Prisoners and There Will Be Blood. Yes Greg Fraiser knows how to shoot films, and you definitely need great cinematography for a film like Batman. I am super stoked!
Oh definitely Planet of the Apes trilogy 1000x >>>>> SW sequel trilogy! 100% agree with you on that take man! Only good film in the sequel trilogy is force awakens.
And yeah, I'm glad you see this the same way I do man! In regards to the accuracy of not just the character of Batman himself, but the whole atmosphere of Batman. I seriously can't explain enough on how this film just looks so spot on in that aspect. Everything from the action to set design to atmosphere just defines Batman. Overall I thought Nolan got Batman right for the most part, but yeah like you said, he got the tone, and the character right but one of the more weaker aspects in his films are the way the action is handled. While not bad, it just wasn't Batman to me. And I understand his approach was to be more grounded in reality which I love, but I think he dived a little too much on that aspect particularly in the atmosphere of Gotham and of course the action. Gotham was just a generic looking city shot in Chicago and NY. But that's really only my only gripe with those films. This on the other hand is pure Batman accuracy judging by the trailers. Also yeah, the Arkham games are honestly the best we had in regards to the depiction of Batman man! You definitely seem like a dude who's knows your stuff when it comes to the character!
Can't wait to see what Dano brings as well as the other cast members. Fraisers work is just spot on. Patterson looks like he's gonna bring it!.I definitely think this may be the best Batman film since the Dark Knight. Seriously can't wait!
Yep I agree. TFA while I think was good I did have issues with it being so derivative of a new Hope though. Yes though it is in my book the best of the sequel trilogy. However all three Apes films are quite solid. My favorite is War followed closely by Dawn and I liked Rise as well but it is probably my least favorite despite liking all three. I feel you can feel Matt Reeves was an improvement over the first director. While the first director was good I just feel Reeves added a touch of more darkness and personality to the sequels that were needed.
Yes that is exactly it. Atmosphere to Batman is quite important. That is big selling point of the character. You are spot on. The problem is Batman is a fantasy no matter how you cut it. So you can't go too far in the direction of pushing realism. Look we all know real life fights are not fancy, they are often quick, sloppy and not really fun to watch. Batman is a very stylized character therefore we want his fights to be stylized. We want to see gadgets, and creative takedowns. That is the deal Nolan's Gotham is not immersive. Burton did have this over Nolan in terms of making Gotham immersive. It's funny Burton had more atmosphere but I felt he relied on style over substance where as Nolan had more narrative depth and substance but less style. I think Reeves will be able to merge these two together. Which is why the Arkham games were so good. They merged style and substance together beautifully. I also agree those are my only gripes with Nolan's films. Well okay I did feel Bale overdid the voice a bit. Now I am not like most who jump on the hate train but I did feel it was a little overdone. I get what he is going for and kudos for effort but a little too much. Like I said that is me nitpicking though I absolutely adore what Nolan did for Batman.
Oh I am excited about this whole cast buddy! That is another reason I was stoked for it. Every casting choice I have been pleased with. All the cast is spot on!
Yeah TFA can be seen as a rip off of A New Hope. It is pretty reminiscent of that film and does weigh it down but for the most part I enjoyed it. The Apes trilogy is definitely stronger. Dawn and War specifically are masterpiece's.
You definitely hit the nail on that one beautifully in regards to the style over substance analogy. Nolan's films had more tremendous intimacy & depth where Burton was more about style & making an entertaining superhero flick. Obviously substance is more important than style but style is what gives these films more replay value and a more uniqueness to it. Reeves looks like he's taking both aspects and executing them perfectly in this film. And yeah the action isn't the most memorable in the Nolan films and the fights needed to be way more stylized because it's Batman ofc. The car chase in the tunnel with the Joker stood out to me the most. Bales voice was a little over done yes but man I think Patterson may have got it the best. But yeah despite some of those flaws in the Nolan films, he's crafted a beautiful take on the character and I am more than happy those exist.
The cast is spot on for sure man! I seriously can't wait for this film and to see what Reeves brings!
I agree both Dawn and War are masterpieces.
Nolan did create some amazing set pieces make no mistake. It was just the combat I always felt was a bit subpar. His vehicle chases were amazing though! I love that he used practical effects as opposed to just overloading it with cgi and abusing a green screen. I guess the best way I can describe my combat issue is even what it was going for I did not feel it totally nailed. You ever seen the film Haywire? Watch this clip if you have not. This to me is what Nolan was aiming for in terms of the combat being realistic but I feel he did not totally succeed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oY0Ormzk7k
Watch that clip. No shakey cam, no quick cuts but also the choreography is good. Is it stylish or fancy? Not at all but it is quite realistic and you feel the blows. I feel had Nolan been able to do this it would have even helped his fights a tad. It would not have satisfied completely because as I said we like more style than that but it would have improved his film. Of course I know it is tough because the Batsuit restricts mobility where as those actors are in regular clothes.
I think Pattinson has a great voice for Batman. Yeah I mean even though I felt Bale's was overdone I still loved him in the role and I love TDK trilogy to pieces despite my minor complaints.
Yep I will probably see this film at midnight. First film I have done that for in a long time honestly.
Yeah the practicality is what I admire the most about Nolan as well as some other big budget action movies like the modern Bond films. I can't stand over use of CGI. While I thought the action was good in the Nolan films, it didn't have those jaw dropping moments you would expect from Batman. I also have seen Haywire and the action is crazy. I love scene in the beginning with Channing Tatum in the Diner. Yes it's not the most stylish. It's very grounded but it had such awe moments that Nolan lacked a little. That's a great analogy for sure. And yeah you do have to take into consideration that the batsuit isn't the best when it comes to mobility but looks like Reeves will finally make it work hopefully. Going back to the modern Bond films actually, I kinda feel like the same way about Skyfall if you have ever seen that. The action is pretty grounded but lacked some of the style that Casino Royale had. Probably the most stylictic action scene is probably that one take hand to hand combat on the skyscraper.
Yeah I think Pattinsons voice is almost perfect. It's not too over the top but still intimidating at the same time. Bales was a little over done but that being said, yeah the TDK trilogy is overall a masterpiece despite those few flaws.
A midnight showing would be pretty cool as well especially since I'm highly anticipating this. Actually my last midnight showing wasn't too long ago when I saw No Time to Die last weekend. I tend to go to midnight showings for the films I'm literally dying to see.