So Gordon and Seline are black - The Batman (2022) Discussion

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

31 is old? Wut?

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[–] NotoriousRio (12927) 4 years ago

1 year older than the OP supposedly. A bit strange.

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[–] bobbynynex (1505) 4 years ago

old for the role. seline is 20-25. also shes not hot which is the real issue here also shes black which is pandering.

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[–] NotoriousRio (12927) 4 years ago

Selina Kyle is usually just a little younger than Batman, she’s one of his earliest foes, she ages with Bruce and falls in love with him, so the story goes.

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[–] Kowalski (77085) 4 years ago

SO WOMEN ARE SEX OBJECTS AND YOUR A RACIST...WATCH OUT FOR BOBBY...HE'S A DOUBLE THREAT.🙂

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[–] bobbynynex (1505) 4 years ago

ya movies are about eye candy dumbass. want real life look in the mirror its ugly af

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[–] Kowalski (77085) 4 years ago

NO...THEY ARENT...PORN IS ABOUT EYE CANDY...YOURE A LITTLE MIXED UP ON YOUR MEDIA.

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[–] bobbynynex (1505) 4 years ago

go back to starbucks and recycle your sandals cuckboy

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[–] Kowalski (77085) 4 years ago

THATS FUNNY AS I HATE COFFEE AND WEAR GROWN MAN SHOES...ASSUMPTION ONLY SHOWS YOUR WEAKNESS.

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[–] bobbynynex (1505) 4 years ago

ya coffee is bad for the environment amirite? fucking simps

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[–] kuatorises (7467) 4 years ago

"NO...THEY ARENT...PORN IS ABOUT EYE CANDY...YOURE A LITTLE MIXED UP ON YOUR MEDIA."

Have you never seen a comic book?

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[–] Kowalski (77085) 4 years ago

SURE...STILL NOT TALKING REAL WORLD PEOPLE/ACTORS.

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[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

"Not hot" is just your opinion. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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[–] EvilPinata (1186) 4 years ago

After seeing Zoe Kravits in High Fidelity, I'm excited to see her as Catwoman honestly. I think she'll do great.

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[–] MickyMac (3217) 4 years ago

It really doesn't matter it's the quality that matters.

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[–] kuatorises (7467) 4 years ago

I'm tired of making white characters black just because. Make a minority character white though and "that's racist."

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[–] kukuxu (5409) 4 years ago

And it's not random characters being made black. They blackwash the positive characters. There's 4 main characters in this movie: Batman, Alfred, Gordon and Catwoman. 50% of them have been made black. Not bad as a quota.

On the other side, you check the trailer, every bad guy is white with only one exception. You can see one black guy among the thugs, and knowing Hollywood, chances are he'll end up being the good one.

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[–] bobbynynex (1505) 4 years ago

only 12% of the US population is black, but now we need 50% quotas.

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[–] Ryker (194) 4 years ago

"There's not one, but 2 GOOD BLACK people. THE WORLD IS ENDING!"

Does it bother you as much when all the good characters are white guys? I bet not.

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[–] kukuxu (5409) 4 years ago

Does it bother you as much when all the good characters are white guys? I bet not.

Movies with all the good characters being white or American and all the bad guys being from other ethnic group? Like movies with all the Indians being evil cruel murderers (common during the western golden age in the 50s)? or movies with all the Germans being psychopaths (quite common during the 40s and 50s)? You mean that?

Yeap, that actually bothers me. And I have had more than one argument about it. Unlike (corrected) you, I'm a coherent person.

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[–] Ryker (194) 4 years ago

How about something more recent? Did the whitewashing of Ghost in the Shell bother you?

"Unless you, I'm a coherent person."

Guess you meant to say "unlike"?

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[–] kukuxu (5409) 4 years ago

How about something more recent? Did the whitewashing of Ghost in the Shell bother you?

Yeap, it actually bothered me. Keeping the Japanese names while using a diversity cast was ridiculous. And given that the characters were supposed to be Japanese, whites were diversity cast too.

But that's not the only thing that bothered me. It bothers me that it's called "whitewashing".

Let's remember that you have this guy playing Ishikawa
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4410706/?ref_=tt_cl_t8
This guy playing Borma
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4476708/?ref_=tt_cl_t10
This Chinese guy playing Togusa
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1977856/?ref_=tt_cl_t6

But for some reason that didn't matter. Only the "white" guys playing Japanese ones mattered. You had black guys and Chinese guys playing Japanese, but hey, it was "whitewashing". Sure.

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[–] Ryker (194) 4 years ago

People talk about whitewashing more since it's more prevalent, has a longer history and gives a group that already dominates Hollywood an even stronger foothold.

It's like the people who didn't mind Light being whitewashed in Death Note, but had a problem with L being black. Seems like you're one of those that is bothered more by the presence of the black actors.

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[–] kukuxu (5409) 4 years ago

1 Nobody is "washed" in Death Note. The movie is a remake set in US, so it's logical the characters are not Japanese. The same way The Magnificent Seven is a remake of The Seven Samurais.

Is Akira Kurosawa's Ran a "Nipponwashing" because it's an adaptation of Shakespeare's King's Lear? That'd be ridiculous.

2 But that's not all. You don't say Death Note is "washed", you specifically call it "whitewashed"... even though the two main characters are played by one white and one black actor. But it's "whitewashing".

You have excused it before saying "People talk about whitewashing more since it's more prevalent". Stating that nowadays whitewashing is more prevalent requires a high degree of denial of reality.

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[–] Ryker (194) 4 years ago

Ok so you ignored my question about Ghost in the Shell.

So you would have been cool with Light being black too? As I said before my issue with Death Note was that people were okay with Light being white, but were bothered about L being black. That's a big double standard, even if we consider that "hey it's American so they don't have to be Japanese."

"Stating that nowadays whitewashing is more prevalent requires a high degree of denial of reality."

So in your world minorities dominate most of the lead roles in Hollywood? The few cases of the opposite you can think of don't account for the majority. Everything from Lone Ranger to Warm Bodies and Ghost in the Shell. For all the ones you can list for the last ten years, I bet I can find more in mainstream Hollywood films.

Also went through some of your other posts. Your post on cultural appropriation is more evidence that you love semantics. Your post on "more woke shit" also shows that this convo we're having is likely a waste of time. I always find it amusing when people try to soften their views a little to sound more reasonable in one convo, but then another convo makes it clear they had no intention of letting go of the hate (yes, hate is the right word) that is in them.

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[–] kukuxu (5409) 4 years ago

Ok so you ignored my question about Ghost in the Shell.

???

I answered that question after you made it, five comments above. Did you already lose track of the conversation? Did you actually read what I wrote?

So you would have been cool with Light being black too?

I didn't say that. I said that in Death Note there was no "washing" of any type, black or white. The movie could have or have not other woke problems. This is quite a wide topic, and I'm not following you there if you decide to jump to it since this thread is not about that movie.

So in your world minorities dominate most of the lead roles in Hollywood?

I didn't say that. I said that right now blackwashing is MUCH more prevalent that whitewashing. I said that in Batman only 50% of lead roles are white males, while almost 100% of villains, psychopaths, corrupt or pitiful characters are white males. The same thumb rule could be applied to modern Hollywood.

I always find it amusing when people try to soften their views a little to sound more reasonable in one convo, but then another convo makes it clear they had no intention of letting go of the hate (yes, hate is the right word) that is in them.

I always find it amusing how true believers use to assign to other people a set of preconceived ideas. If what I say doesn't fit the set of preconceived ideas you've assigned to me, then that means that I'm "trying to soften my views a little", because you have already pre-decided what I think, and what I say is irrelevant.

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[–] Ryker (194) 4 years ago

Yeah but do you defend whitewashing? If you defend whitewashing and get bothered by this then you're a hypocrite.

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