The Wokeman
Where are all the Marvel/Star Wars haters?
Oooohhhh...that's right...this isn't Disney so...nevermind.
Oooohhhh...that's right...this isn't Disney so...nevermind.
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Yep Your Right This is Disney/the MCU
This is WB/DC....You know where "The Batman" is part of a Supernova HOT string of box office hit and misses which include going a whopping 50/50 over there last 6 DC films....
If This WAS DISNEY....You would see things like oh you know producing 8 films in a calendar year that topped 1 Billion + culminating in the greatest year in Hollywood History....
Or Going to 23 for 23 of MCU films including having The Greatest Box office run in Hollywood history over The Last 11 MCU films, Which Includes 6 of which topped 1 Billion +, 9 of Which opened over 115 Million +, 2 Topped 2 Billion +, 3 Topped 600 M+ domestically and Producing The Highest grossing Movie of all time in EG(Oh and while were on the subject of Highest grossing movies of all time, Its worth noting, while not MCU, DISNEY also Just BROKE their Own record and Once again Produced The New Highest grossing Animated film of all time With Frozen II clocking in a a stunning 1.437 B+)....
lol Yep Queen, You Finally nailed this one....."This Isn't Disney" is about the most accurate thing you've ever said....
This is WB, You know the same WB that Embarrassingly Just had to Chance The title of Birds of Prey after it opened to a pathetic and disastrously low Opening Weekend in attempt to save the dying franchise and film
The same WB that is now 0 for 2 in attempting to start Uber Successful franchise based on Lesser known characters on Smaller Budgets, Which Includes Shazam, A film you hilariously guaranteed would open to at least 75 to 100 M, would top at least 250 M+ domestically and would Top at least 625 M+...But instead failed to open over 55M, failed to reach 150 M domestically and failed to see 370 M WW....and BY YOUR OWN BIASED "Break even" point, made NO PROFIT
and yes this is the same WB that self destructed themselves out of a "Once In a Generation"(of course a dig at your EPIC Lion King fail)Disney Type profit from Joker, where WB hilariously felt there was too Much Risk and had so little confidence in A Joaquin Phoenix Joker film that WB simply COULD NOT handle financing the whopping 55 million dollar film of their own and REQUIRED co financing on such a Massive and risky investment that WB clearly thought and expected to FLOP, which In the end cost WB Over 300 Million dollars in Profit....and ended WB's "one and ONLY" shot at ever making a Disney Type 500 M+ profit on a film!
so again, Maybe your finest Post Queen....
or at least your TRUEST, lol, I would certainly argue you've never spoken more Truer words than Noting "This Isnt Disney"....
I'm warning you bill...I'll embarrass you in front of all these people with everything I have on you!
Just keep pushing...
Didn't you already do that? Wasn't there some squabble about some comic book show or something? It was lame. Queen, your movie flopped but try to find a better way to cope with it other than nerd blackmail. Bill, stop typing so damn much. More people will read your stuff if you condense it by at least 70%
shareyeah, I remember. billbrown volunteered to offer proof that he attended a comic book show (his excuse for a sudden outage once a prediction of his went south) to anyone who asked for it -- except Queen, of course. I volunteered to accept this proof (pics, I believe), but he never replied to me and conveniently disappeared again. Queen isn't the only one of the two who doesn't always shoot straight. And you might want to reply to bill directly regarding his length of posts.
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Sure...I've gotten the box office wrong at times but I don't intentionally LIE. Billbrown, on the other hand, certainly does.
Sure...I've gotten the box office wrong at times but I don't intentionally LIE. Billbrown, on the other hand, certainly does.
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theres ONLY 1 person here thats been caught INTENTIONALLY LYING.....and thats you queen....TWICE
when Captain Marvel surpassed all your "Goals/Intentionally High expectations"....When CM Literally beat every single "Bar" you set for it....
You then Intentionally made up a LIE about CM not meeting Boxoffice.com's 1st week projections...
I hilariously immediately knew this was a LIE, because I follow box office and remembered what Bo.com's projections were and gave you the chance to admit you were lying but you didnt...I then Posted the archive projections from the 1st week proving you were wrong and LIED.....You then decided to make it worse by trying to cover up your LIE with another LIE and then claimed "we'll it must have been a projection from another week, but Its there, I remember"
I then gave you yet another chance to admit you were LYING or did I really need to post all The archive proving this "so called Projection" you claim doesnt actually exist....you then said "do it"
In which I did, Proving YOU LIED......TWICE
lol You are the only Proven LIAR here.....Your claims about me LYING are Based on your claims that I edit Posts, ODDLY enough though you've been claiming I edit posts for over 2 years now yet you dont have a single example where you can provide proof of this, Call Me crazy, but If I thought someone was editing posts and had been doing it for over 2 years, I think I would set that person up and start saving a few of the posts so once he "edited" them I would then have the Proof!
ummmmmm wonder Why you havent done this?.......could be That I dont actually edit my posts and you simply cant?
Ummm...bill...dmac is waiting for your PROMISE to be fulfilled in giving the location and date of that comic convention that kept you from responding on Sunday morning when the Joker's 2nd weekend numbers were released..he's been waiting almost 5 months.
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Ummm...bill...dmac is waiting for your PROMISE to be fulfilled in giving the location and date of that comic convention that kept you from responding on Sunday morning when the Joker's 2nd weekend numbers were released..he's been waiting almost 5 months.
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and as I told you the very day you asked, I'll never tell you....You forfeited the right for me to ever have to "Prove" anything to you!
and yes I remember Joker's 2nd weekend Numbers as we BOTH Disastrously Missed on our predictions....
although I took the High Road and freely admitted to simply just completely being wrong and Missing, You on the other due to your LONG and repeated history of always being wrong, instead desperately wanted credit for "Kinda getting it right" .
and I even took the high road AGAIN and Gave you the credit, Noting You made a very good 1st prediction, but Torpedoed it by letting your hatred for Disney get the best of when you came back CHANGED your prediction but This time Your Prediction was Disastrously off...
This isnt the first time, you sabotaged yourself like this, You did something similar with Avengers Endgame....For Months prior to Endgames release, you for some reason decided to take ODD trolling tactic of claiming "The Record Presales" couldnt be trusted and everyone was "Hyperventilating" that EG wouldnt live up to the Presales....
Then in ONLY Queen Fashion, You made a terrible mistake(Hilariously the same mistake you repeated with Joker which cost you a much needed WIN)
YOU GOT TOO Excited and Trolled to soon!
With EG, You were clicking on Deadline every 10 mins waiting for results to come in and hilariously when they did, YOU got so excited by the title on the report, You FAILED to read the entire post, Instead you only read the title which had Endgame at 48 Million In Thurday previews...
You instantly stopped reading, and jumped on this forum as fast as you could to quickly make a TROLL thread in your excitement.
and In that troll thread you completely BURIED yourself....
Hilariously, You immediately started bragging up about "You being right about the presales being too high" and Then literally dug your own grave by concluding now..."A 300 million opening weekend for Endgame was dead and It would be luckily to even match Infinity Wars 257 Million OW"
and the best part about this all time epic trolling failure was...You did it, you created this troll thread and made all this predictions and guarantees based on FALSE INFORMATION that you PREMATURELY Jumped to....
Lol all because YOU ONLY READ The title....
The article actually said further down "Avengers Endgame is at 48 Million with Half the night still to go"
lol Your excitement to troll Lead you to get so excited at the thought Endgame was under performing, you Literally stopped reading the article and rushed to troll as soon as possible....You then Prematurely made a troll thread where You INCORRECTLY bragged about you being right about presales and Then because You INCORRECTLY believed EG was coming in at 48 M, You then Confidently guaranteed EG wouldnt top 300 Million and would be lucky to match IWs 257 M....all this on incorrect information because your excitement to troll got the best of you....
You would think Missing by near 100 Million dollars on EGs opening weekend would have Learned this lesson for you and you wouldnt make this mistake again!
But Nope, You did the same thing with Joker....
This time, You make a very good 1st prediction, I think 57 to 62 M(Much better than what my prediction was), and astonishing Joker ended up coming in almost exactly where you first predicted....
But Then your excitement to troll got the best of you again....This time once again your waiting for deadlines projections to come in for Joker and when they do, Once again you rush to the forum to Troll...
based on Deadlines projections, You CHANGED your prediction and decide to up your prediction drastically and now claim "its transformed into a cultural phenomenon" and heading toward 70 M+ 2nd weekend and over 400 Million domestically
lol now had you simply Just stayed the course, Had your excitement to troll not got the best of You....You had a clear cut WIN!
But just like with EG, You got too excited, You couldnt wait to troll, you saw Projections which you thought meant you were going to be right and You immediately ran to make troll threads
In EGs case you DECLARED YOU were right off incorrect information and then Made guarantees about box office numbers it couldnt achieve....
In Jokers cases, You Incorrectly raised your expectations and predictions so you could troll harder and exaggeration the films success...
In both cases you completely KILLED yourself....
with EG, It cost you your biggest Miss yet with a Near 100 Million Miss on Its Open weekend and It proved your 3 months of ODDLY claiming the presale were overhyped was an AWFUL Trolling tactic that went down in FLAMES when it was proven Unequivocally wrong with EGs otherworldly 357 Million OW.
With Joker, It cost you IMO one of your biggest defeats Yet...You had The rare chance to get your 2nd Clear WIN(your 1st was SOLO, which ahead I took the high and freely admitted you won and were right) but Here with Joker, You had the chance to have a clear cut victory and You let your excitement to troll ruin it by CHANGING your prediction after seeing deadlines projections...
lol Ironically your NEW prediction, ended up MISSING worse than Mine....
You make a great 1st prediction, and I miss BADLY....
But then you come back and CHANGE your prediction, and ended up now missing Worse than my awful prediction....ONLY you could RUIN a victory that Horrifically.....
Lol Epic fails here
PS remember The "One that got away"?
remember when I said Solo was your 1st Win and Joker could have been your 2nd?
I couldnt help think about The "One that got away" remember Deadpool 2?
remember How about 3 months before it came out I predicted I thought DP2 would make Less than DP1
then remember how you laughed at me....
Then came The week of DP2s release and Because you felt confident in the 150 M+ tracking, you spent the entire week, Bumping odd threads and Quoting My Prediction that DP2 would NOT top DP1....
YOU truly thought you WON This one and Spent a week Prematurely celebrating victory
But then it happened!!!
The victory was taken from you when DP2 came in exactly where I predicted...
and This is not an exaggeration but you have not been back to the DP2 board since, You truly went from LIVING on the board for a week, To turning into a complete ghost the moments Deadlines 1st projections came in and Literally NEVER once came back....
The "One that Got away"
Good times
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I do understand this comic convention has become one of your "go to" responses....
But you do realize its in no way a response to My TRUE statements that You were caught it 2 LIES....
I mean its almost like your Hoping "Hey Maybe if I bring up the comic convention, it might distract people from The fact that I have no answers for Clearly getting caught in 2 LIES"
Or maybe your hoping "Hey look I think Bill Lied about The Comic Convention, see My 2 Lies arent that bad"
lol Your lack of response is quiet telling, the fact that you instantly resort to your "Go to" responses when your backed into a corner , clearly shows you dont like being called out for getting caught in 2 LIES
no one likes the woke man
shareBill...i'm not asking you for the date and location...dmac is.
You PROMISED that ANYONE that wanted that info you would give that to them
Now is this another lie on your part? It looks like it is. What a surprise.
He's been waiting for you to honor this promise for MONTHS now.
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Ummm...bill...you're not a liar?
Then provide just ONE LINK of a "confirmed report"(your exact words) of a "special deal"(again YOUR exact words) where Disney got 67% of domestic ticket sales and 55% of international for The Lion King.
You can't because they don't exist! You totally made it up!
Just ONE, bill. You said there were confirmed report(s)"...that's plural bill. So there's even more than one according to you. Post ONE link.
I'm warning you bill...I'll embarrass you in front of all these people with everything I have on you!
Just keep pushing...
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Queen Its not on Me....
I'm not pushing....I've told you dozens of times....as long as you troll I'll be there to haunt you!
I go away tomorrow if you can some how control your deep, unnatural hatred for Disney....
I'm not the one trolling here, You are...
I have no idea how you could think I'm "Pushing" when I only respond to Your Disney Trolling, and again Its not my fault you are always wrong and Miss by Absurd amounts, Its not my fault, You picked the worst possible subject in Disney to Troll on....
You make these Crazy troll threads where you desperately try to troll on A company That has had unprecedented success for over a decade now, You ODDLY make these awful Predictions about Disney films, which I can only assume you do out of spite because You hate Disney so much and It bothers you much they keep succeeding to the degree in which they do..But the point is, Its not my fault that I have such a gold mine of ammunition on you...
You let your hatred control you and You have spent 3 years Trolling which has failed on a near 95% + basis.....You have let your hatred for Disney cause you to Miss by 50 to 80 Million dollars on films OWs 13 times now....You have embarrassingl decided to prematurely troll on Films that would ultimate go on to be the highest grossing movies ever made, You desperately troll on Disney Films that top 1 Billion and Make HUNDREDS of millions in profit...
You can't get mad at me for Pointing out your failures
Now, If you suddenly stopped, If you got your hatred for Disney under control and stopped your childish,hate fueled trolling and THEN I STILL abused you and kept bringing up your past failures, that would be "Pushing", that would be a dick move by me..
But I'm only responding to your continued Childish, hate fuels Disney trolling....lol theres nothing "Mean" about pointing out the Absurdity of your awful trolling.
but seriously again....If you truly feel I'm "Pushing"....Lets find out?
Put me to the test?
stop your anti-Disney hate fueled trolling for a month or two and Lets see If I continue to "Push"
the facts are, I'm only here because you are here....I go away tomorrow and would never bring up any of your 3 years of failures again if You actually somehow got your Hatred and anger toward Disney under control....
so in conclusion, I'm not "Pushing"....I'm Only only responding to your trolling that is INCREDIBLY worthy of being called out for its absurdity and DEEP history of failures
Ummm...bill...LOL...@dmac is here right above you and he says you STILL haven't given him the location and dates of that "comic convention" that you PROMISED to give to ANYONE that requested it.
Still going to ignore him?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
I already know how to make you go away for a while. I did it once already simply by asking you for proof you claimed to have ready for any taker but Queen.
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Classic, dmac.
dmac...there are two surefire lies he's been caught in(and 1 broken promise to you) and it's the "confirmed reports" lie and his "5 1/2 day comic convention" story.
Both of those are like the sign of the Cross to Dracula.
It didn't make sense when he excluded you b/c he didn't want to give you the "satisfaction" or something of providing proof directly.
Also, his story didn't make much sense on its face. Most shows/conventions of any kind don't start and stop across those days of the week. They usually culminate on a weekend for obvious reasons.
And before I asked for his proof, I checked the mother of all comic book show calendars. It has everything from church basement stuff to the biggest of them all. None matched what he described.
Lastly, he disappeared right after I asked. Not one post until resurfacing on another thread, days, if not weeks, later, with absolutely no acknowledgment of me taking him up on his offer.
What conclusion could anyone realistically draw from that? I'm guessing he was banking on no one else asking for it, so he got caught with his pants down when I did.
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You laid it all out much more succinctly and effectively then I ever could. Only Norrinrad could read through all of that with billbrown's promise-breaking and still say "Nothing to see here. Btw, I'm getting the sneaking feeling you and Queenfan are colluding."
I wouldn't have even thought of anything that stupid until Norrinrad threw that out there. If anyone is acting like they are 'colluding" with anyone it's Norrinrad with billbrown. It's clear as day billbrown is lying and yet he always has more "questions" for moi.
I forget the names. Some might be here under new names. Norrin, bill, furiousstyles? and coupla more who would congratulate themselves after sniping at you. In the same breath, Norrin declared them to be "victims" of your posts. When I said why not put you on their ignore lists, I got waffling instead of the obvious answer. They're the only victims who chase around their victimizer in hopes of being victimized again. And yes, your mediator in chief actually used the word "victim" -- b/c that's the state they're supposedly in after reading some post of yours that says something negative -- or not positive enough -- about Disney.
Fair and objective. Right. Norrin admonished me for not being sufficiently critical of you. Kangaroo court. I think you have to put your hand on the Avengers box set to be sworn in.
Thanks for the info, dmac. I can't say any of it shocks me, tbh.
Say...still nuthin' from billbrown on the "comic convention"?
[–] dmac8 (3215) an hour agoYou personally MADE BillBrown go away for awhile?? Those are some pretty impressive and persuasive skills you have there dmac8. I'm beginning to get the impression you and QueenFanUSA have a back channel of communications going on. 🤔 Do I detect a hint of collusion or have you been Stockholmed?
I already know how to make you go away for a while. I did it once already simply by asking you for proof you claimed to have ready for any taker but Queen.
You personally MADE BillBrown go away??!! Will you also be able to MAKE him be more pithy with his posts? Does any of this Moviechat-CSI have anything to do with The Batman?
Well I guess Batman is going to have to surrender the title of World's Greatest Detective.
I checked the mother of all comic book show calendars. It has everything from church basement stuff to the biggest of them all. Nothing match what he described.Impressive, quite impressive indeed. 🤣
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Nothing that dramatic no matter how you much boldface you use from that purely objective mediator post you strangely profess to hold -- where Queen leaves "victims" in his wake but bill being full of it? who cares? he's a gushing disney/marvel fan, just like you -- so how bad can he be, right?? Seems fair.
bill simply gave a condition that would make him go away. I just mentioned another that has been proven effective. Just ask him for proof that he offered to anyone who wanted it -- except to Queen, of course. Yeah, that made sense. Why prove to your accuser when you can offer it to a third party instead? Nothing fishy about that at all.
"Nothing fishy about that at all."
How ' bout the fact that he said he couldn't wait for the weekend numbers to come out so he could "see me lose" but made not one mention of the fact that he wouldn't be there for it. Not one mention of "Hey I'm not gonna be here for the next week but don't worry I'll be back to rub your nose in your FAIL."
Also, he eventually admitted he had a phone during this whole time as well!
Who doesn't have "a phone during the whole time" these days?
I don't care if his prediction is wrong. Everyone does that now and again.
But you have to do one thing: Show up when the results come in and take your lumps and/or fight your fight. Disappearing then slipping back in through the back door days or weeks later is punking out. He did it after the Joker results and he did it again when I took him up on the offer. And now he simply does not acknowledge the offer at all. That's far worse than making a wrong prediction.
I don't even recall interacting with dmac before this blow-up with billbrown and while you were mediating...did you notice that dmac implied I wasn't always a "straight shooter"? Yeah...we're close buddies.
Unlike you, he can see what was an obvious lie on billbrown's part and called him on it. Everything billbrown did in this case defies honest and normal human behavior.
Just like "confirmed reports" that he refuses to provide...because there aren't any.
I don't know you from a can of paint. Norrin is just projecting "collusion" on to me b/c, in the past, I pointed out the little swarm of high-fivers and back-slappers who follow you around. And yes, I have called you out a few times -- but as with billbrown's foibles, Norrin is blind to that. I'm actually the unbiased one Norrin claims to be. I don't give a shit about studio comparisons or comic book followings. But if you're not Marvel-ous, you're already in a hole with Norrin (and so many others. Ask Scorsese). That much is clear. It's great to be a rabid, passionate fan, but it's silly to pretend that there's no bias due to that fandom. You, bill, and Norrin should all make some extra cash as publicists for WB and Disney.
share"Does any of this Moviechat-CSI have anything to do with The Batman?"
You'd have to ask billbrown as he was the person that diverted the discussion back into this over-trodden road. Oh...wait...you never ask questions of HIM now do you? In all of your "mediating" it seems to only be ME you have "questions" for. Hmmmm...is there some kind of "back-channel communication" going on between you two?
Hey Norrinrad...why don't YOU take billbrown up on his offer to give the location and dates of this comic convention? We could put this to rest very quickly with no more need for future mediation.
Hey Norrinrad...speaking of "collusion" and "back channel communications"..care to give the goods on what those PM's were about between you and billbrown and why you've never felt the need to ask him the name of the comic convention? I mean...you are a"mediator"right?
You suspected me and dmac of doing the thing that you and billbrown were actually doing all along. We were not...but you two were.
You're a "mediator" that PM''d one side.
Very objective.
We all know you've never been interested in verification of the "comic convention" but still...
Norrinrad...since you've been advising billbrown in "back channel communications" I'm wondering why you thought it was a good idea to expand the story of the comic convention from 5 1/2 days to two weeks? I don't get it...5 months of saying it was a 5 1/2 day convention suddenly changing to two weeks? And the the whole dmac "blocked" thing? Dontcha think you should have made sure there were ACTUAL POSTS of dmac "following me around and agreeing with me" before telling billbrown to go with that story?
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