Gwen's Death


How would have Gwen's death been described to her family and the public?

Obviously Peter couldn't say he was there. So it makes me wonder how her family, police and everyone else found out about her death.

I could see the public blaming Spider-Man, since he swooped her off the bridge (there were people behind Gwen during the I Love You scene when she got out of the taxi) so people would have witnessed a blond girl being grabbed by Spider Man and then the next day seeing a blond girl was killed in the news.

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Considering the fact Harry is in a mental hospital at the end, I'm pretty certain the authorities found him there and he might have confessed what he did.

"1-800 Spank me? I know that number." Scott Calvin, The Santa Clause.

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One of the biggest mistakes that the Andrew Garfield interpretation of Spider-Man made was killing off Gwen Stacy. Or at the very least, killing her off at the end of this particular movie. They could've if they were going to kill her off, done it better. It just felt like it was there. There wasn't any to the best of my recollections, foreshadowing that something bad was going to happen to her. The whole thing just came across as anti-climatic and down right insulting. Gwen Stacy's death in the first place, is probably the ultimate example of the "women in refrigerator" trope.

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Dude, are you really that ignorant? That is how Gwen died in the comics.

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I'm not talking about the comics, I'm talking about within the context of the movie. Just because something happened in the comics doesn't necessarily mean that it could easily translate as well in live-action.

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What does the fact that Gwen dies like that in the comics have to do with whether or not it made any narrative sense in the movie? If anything, that just makes the movie even more predictable.

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I would be complaining about Uncle Ben dying if I didn't think that it was handled properly in the context of the movie? Dude, Uncle Ben gets shot in the comics and Peter could've prevented it.

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This is what I said about a year ago in this forum:

I had a gut feeling that Gwen was going to die and I'm someone who tries very hard to avoid reading anything about a movie prior to seeing it. I recall the adverts showing Gwen falling and Spider-Man trying to catch her. And of course, if the Green Goblin is in it then, then of course, that's a big indicator that Gwen was going to die. I think that they even had Emma Stone wear a similar outfit to the one that Gwen was wearing in the "Night Gwen Stacy Died" story. My point is that, the whole thing felt awfully telegraphed if you're well aware of the comics. It just came off like the filmmakers killed Gwen off because it was dedicated by the comic mythos (like what happened with Uncle Ben), and not because it truly makes sense from a narrative standpoint. Gwen Stacy' death was probably the ultimate example of fridging, where a female love interest is killed or maimed to provide an cheap and exploitative excuse to emotionally torment the hero.

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https://www.quora.com/Why-did-people-hate-Andrews-Amazing-Spider-Man-2/answer/Shadi-Barham-%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%8A-%D8%A8%D8%B1%D9%87%D9%85

Essentially, they wanted to have the big iconic moment from the comics with Gwen Stacy dying…

But where Gwen Stacy dying is perhaps the single most famous moment from the Spider-Man comics, and has an impact far greater than the death of Gwen, and greatly reshaped the entire landscape of superhero comics… Here it serves to do… What exactly?

It’s the same reason why Game of Thrones couldn’t ever get the big twists to work when they weren’t coming from the books… It’s because it never understand why the major twists from earlier in the story actually worked, and what made them so significant.

Gwen’s death isn’t a powerful moment… I felt nothing afterwards. I barely cared even…

And it’s just excessive… What does Gwen’s death prove that her dad’s death in the previous movie couldn’t have proven? Or Uncle Ben’s?

How many more people will need for Peter to learn his lesson?

Or has he already? In which case… What lesson was he supposed to learn? How is this supposed to grow Peter’s character?

The answer is beyond possibly making room for Peter to be romantically involved with Black Cat in possible future now not happening movies, it does nothing to expand Peter’s arc.

They wanted to just have the big iconic moment and not bother with any proper buildup.

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The Amazing Spider-Man Franchise's Biggest Tragedy Was a Massive Mistake

https://www.cbr.com/gwen-stacy-death-doomed-amazing-spider-man-2/

While depicting Gwen Stacy's death for the first time onscreen helped The Amazing Spider-Man 2 stand out, it also killed the franchise for fans.

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Yeah that part didn't make sense. In the comics, I believe everyone thought Spiderman killed her which would make sense to believe. I just feel like this movie was in too much of a rush to kill Gwen. Almost like they couldn't wait to do that. Plus, it doesn't help when they kept leaking footage of Emma Stone wearing the outfit Gwen wore when she got killed.

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Not to mention they cast and filmed scenes with a new MJ. It's so weird that they rebooted the series rather then let Raimi continue but we're just trying desperately to get back to things he already did.

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Yeah I like the Raimi movies the most. The third movie ruined it for me.

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I don't remember a new MJ. Did they cut het her scenes?

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Killing off Gwen felt like a "check box moment". Like I said, if you're well aware of the Spider-Man comics, then it comes to no surprised that the most well known thing about Gwen Stacy's character is that she dies in a horrific way at the hands of the Green Goblin. Of course, they couldn't have her be dropped from a bridge because they already did that with Mary Jane Watson in the 2002 Spider-Man movie ("been there, done that"), so they tried to be "clever" by changing the locale.

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Yeah it felt like it happened very randomly in the movie. It's like, beat electro but now we need to take care of hob goblin. And it seemed like the director wanted this to happen so badly. Plus it doesn't help that they spoiled that Emma Stone would wear the same outfit that Gwen wore when she died. Didn't even bother keeping that a secret. Coincidence much? Also, they were make it obvious when they kept mentioning that Peter was afraid of losing Gwen only to lose her in the end.

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No Way Home Can Redeem Gwen Stacy's Amazing Spider-Man 2 Death

https://screenrant.com/spiderman-no-way-home-mj-death-gwen-stacy/

Spider-Man: No Way Home's second trailer features a callback from Gwen Stacy's The Amazing Spider-Man 2 death, but it could have a different ending.

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I'm sure that was intentional.

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Gwen Stacy's Death Without Slow Motion Makes Divisive Garfield Spider-Man Scene Much Better

https://screenrant.com/gwen-stacy-death-andrew-garfield-spider-man-scene-slow-motion/

A brand new fan-created video shows Gwen Stacy's death in The Amazing Spider-Man 2 in real-time, and somehow it makes it so much more tragic.

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Spider-Man: The Science Behind Gwen Stacy's Death - Was There A Way To Save Her?

https://www.looper.com/1383830/spider-man-gwen-stacy-death-science/

Gwen Stacy's fatal fall is one of the most iconic — and tragic — deaths in Marvel history. But was it even possible for Spider-Man to save her life?

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