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Backlash on rape subplot


http://www.vulture.com/2014/12/newsroom-campus-rape-plotline-criticism .html

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I thought the scene was thought-provoking and exceptionally well done. It did a very good job of presenting many aspects of the situation, including the issue of institutional indifference in prosecuting rape, and the life-changing consequences of being a victim of rape, the dangers of allowing anyone to anonymously accuse someone else of rape in a public forum. The people who were offended by it were, for the most part, looking to be offended and seized on something that they thought served that purpose for them. Anyone who brings up the subject of rape will get someone mad at them regardless of what approach they take.

I think the episode offered a very sympathetic portrayal of the rape victim and used the discussion with Don as a way to shine a light on questions and issues from multiple angles, which is something that most of the people critical of the episode in the vulture.com piece seemed to miss.

It's interesting that many of the posts in the comments section are far more favorable to the episode.

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it seemed very well done to me

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I had totally expected this.


I haven't read all the posts. someone might have already covered this.


There is also a story about one of the female writers in his writer's room pulling off a "Hallie" on him. Apparently, she tweeted about her reluctance to add the rape plot line and how she got "thrown out" of the room for voicing her opinions.

Is it a coincidence that he is heavily focusing on the effects of internet in this season? Hallie's betrayal, Kundu story, the Rape case and the stalker App.

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Seriously?

When she tweeted that she managed to become one of the characters of the show, I thought she was doing some kind of extra promotion for herself and the show.


What a shame!

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She publicly complained about the production of a show still being aired- it's absolutely a blotch on here resume. Let's say she got hired to do a film and the producers cut work she really liked form the film ,then she made a twitter rant about it before the film was released- that damages the marketing for the product. Well known eccentric artists can get away with that kind of stuff but her duty was to provide a united front at least until after the series had aired fully.

That beign said, what is sadder here is that so many people are bitching about the opinion of a character on the show, despite the fact the conversation spends 90% of it's length on her side before he plays a little bit of devils advocate about the problems of mob justice. It's not rape apologism. This is definitely a moment where the social justice warriors got it wrong, fittingly enough- in retrospect this backlash is in many ways proving Don's point.

"World needs bad men. We keep the other bad men from the door"

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The criticism is right on.

"But at the center of the episode's problems was one terrible idea: Aaron Sorkin isn't sure rape victims should be naming their rapists, because somebody somewhere might miss out on a medical school scholarship."

It's just so laughably stupid.

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He said that because such a "tragedy" could immediately be used to shame the accuser and only add to the victims suffering, were u even listening pal?

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No-one worth listening to gives a shit about actual rapists. We want those scumbags in prison. We certainly don't want them to have medical school scholarships. I believe Sorkin was voicing concern for the hypothetical victim of a false accusation.

As someone whose education was hurt thanks to a NON-VIOLENT/NON-CRIMINAL/NON-SEXUAL false accusation, and more recently had to withdraw from two separate careers because of false accusations and/or unfair assocations with people who'd been accused of wrongdoing (and fwiw, several women were also caught up in these false/unfair allegations), I'm afraid I do take false accusations very seriously.

But good for you if you've never experienced them, or are more robust than the likes of me. Maybe I should have worn a badge saying "Yes I am a fraudster" or whatever else I was accused of.

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If you're looking for evidence of the professional click-hungry trolls theory, just look at the 100+ comments on the buzzfeed article:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/arianelange/the-newsroom-and-our-moral-obligation-to-believe-an-alleged

If this is any indication, at least 95% of the comments defended Sorkin and the episode. I left a long comment myself, and then thought...whoops. Totally fell for it.

The author even cites the prison scene of Will's "father" complaining about the 9 women on the jury as a scene that made the episode anti-woman. As Sorkin pointed out (it truly is astounding that he feels that he has to point this out) not every single line from every single character represents what he thinks. I don't think that anyone who can write as competantly as buzzfeed's staff has the poor critical thinking ability to see that Don is not blaming the rape survivor (somehow this extremely long article fails to grasp a basic plot point: that Don's considering doing a piece on her specifically because of her website) and that Will's father's comment is not actually suggesting that wife beaters get a bum rap because chicks sit on the jury. The amount of hate for the journalists who created this faux outcry probably far outweighs the ouctry itself.

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Do people actually think a website like that would be possible? Seems pretty obvious it would never work. The moment it becomes popular or picks up heat, it would immediately get flooded with false accusations as a joke. People would just do it because they can. Any actual rapists would be inclined to send false accusations to the site to damage the reputation and credibility of the site as a whole. It would just never work.

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Good thinking AnonymousBoy. We still tend to think that what people write on the internet is true. In olden days it used to be that it was true if it was printed in the paper, or that a picture cannot lie. Before that something was true if the church said so. We have laboriously learned that it isn't necessarily so. Now it seems we have to learn it all over again with the internet.

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I like Emily's argument that yes, dedicating a public site to naming rape victims would be disastrous.

I was once falsely accused of a sex crime and it nearly destroyed my life.

That said, it was insensitive, but Sorkin's always insensitive. He is incapable of seeing outside himself and tries to tackle a lot of minority groups' issues and people from all different walks of life to disastrous results.




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Seeing as you were the victim of a false accusation, can you explain what was insensitive here?

PS: I've NEVER been accused of a sex crime, but I have been FALSELY accused of lesser acts, and it DID destroy my life.

Maybe you're more robust than me. Well done. But that's besides the point. Just as a rape victim doesn't ask to be raped, the victim of an unsolicited, false accusation doesn't ask to be lied about.

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