Backlash on rape subplot

Innocent until proven guilty does not sound like crap and few people have that stance. Even people who are on the other side of this "rape victims vs falsely accused victims" discussion wouldn't deny that innocent until proven guilty isn't per se a bad basis for the justice system.

And your argument can just as easily be turned around into "Innocent until proven guilty sounds like a great idea until you find yourself or your loved ones as victims without enough evidence."

This discussion has two sides and both are important and it makes me sick when people try to pretend as if being falsely accused is somehow worse than being a victim that nobody believes. Both things are bad and I understand why a person who is more likely to end up on the 'falsely accused' end of this would argue in favour of that side but aren't you and people like you not able to see the other side of the coin just for a second? You argue about how bad it is that people get falsely accused and you can't spare a word for the people who were vicitms of rape but have no way of proving it other than 'Well, it's just logical, your rapist running free is for the greater good of our nation."
Really? Not one "I tend to lean on this side but I do understand that the other side is not completely full of $h*t either"?
No? That too much compassion?

I think any rational person believes that we as a society need to see our justice system work more swiftly and appropriately in regards to sexual assault. Our schools, military, and general law enforecement desperately needs a drastic culturual change. I think the point is that for us rational thinkers, who feel this way, it is easy to immediately side with those accusing. We feel the system is not doing enough, and we are tired of it; however, the easy path is not always the right one. It can be difficult and frustrating, sometimes maddeningly so, to live in a society where innocense is granted until guilt is proved, but it also is necessary for our society to remain in tact. The rights of the accused are as important as the rights of the victim, until guilt is beyond a shadow of a doubt. This may anger us beyond belief at times, but it also keeps us from mob rule mentality. That's why I dont view vigilanty justice on a faceless website with no true vetting process as the answer to our problem with how we treat rape in America.

As far as a website that outs rapists, I'm neither for nor against it at this point. I'm not a huge fan of it being one where anybody could add whatever it is they want to it, like the ACN app that took up another subplot. It's not impossible for someone to get back at an ex.

That being said, people should know. They should know who the rapists are just like people with children should know if there's a child molester in the neighborhood. A site such as the one described in the show could be very powerful AND very dangerous.

We need to protect women from being raped in the first place, but how is throwing one innocent man in prison going to help any victim? You might feel complacent about it, but if you're that one man in a million, you're going to feel pretty pissed off.

I've never been accused of rape, or any violent crime, but I have been falsely accused of other acts, and so I have instinctive sympathy with respect to, and a great deal of fear and anxiety about, false accusations. On one hand, I tend to think that if a man 'keeps his nose clean and behaves himself' he has no reason to be scared of a false accusation, because any false accusation pertaining to rape is likely to involve a very grey area where the man may not have committed rape, but still didn't behave as honourably and thoughtfully as he should have. And yet, the false allegation I was subjected to was a COMPLETE fabrication that came out of nowhere, but everyone believed my accuser (and once again, I must empathise, the accusation didn't pertain to a crime, far less a violent one). And I have read of a false accusation of a man who wasn't even in the same location as his alleged victim (an ex-girlfriend) when the alleged crime was supposed to have occurred, so it seems that even those men who are careful and don't put themselves in a compromising position, may still be vulnerable to a false accusation. Would you have liked this man to go to prison, simply because he was 'one in a million'?

People say any man who's worried about false accusations are 'misogynists' and 'don't care about victims', well, take it from someone who's been on the receiving end of both an attempted rape, by a boy, and sexual assaults by various women, as well as a (non-violent/non-criminal) false accusation, the false accusation did more damage to me in the long-run than the trauma of being sexually assaulted...

As an aside, if I could eradicate all rape/violence towards women, by serving time for a false allegation, I'd GLADLY die in prison as a wrongly demonised martyr, but, guess what? We don't live in that fantasy world. Two wrongs truly don't make a right, and one injustice towards a straight white man doesn't magically erase the injustice done to, say, a gay Black woman. Anyone who thinks in such illogical terms is not a righteous crusader for women's rights, but is driven by bitterness and cruelty.

But, like I say, if anyone can work out a way that me serving time in prison for a false allegation will stop all the *real* rapes in the world, please get back to me. I'd love to 'do a Jesus', and vanquish all sin by playing the martyr, but this is the REAL WORLD, not bullshit fantasy religious nonsense (but hey, if you all believe that fairytale stuff, good for you; knock yourself out 🙂).

In the meantime, I'll maintain my staunch belief that sending anyone to prison on the basis of a false allegation is a fucking waste, and does no-one any good.