That's the message that I got from this movie. The only two minority characters were the good people. All of the white people were corrupt, immoral, greedy, traitorous, racist and vindictive.
Don't even get me started on Avery feeling sorry for Luke... He was a criminal who made the decision to terrorize people and steal money instead of working hard (like the minorities). But that seemed to go over Jason's head when he was googling his dad.
if u think the movie was about good people and bad people, u missed the whole point of the movie
shareDon't even get me started on Avery feeling sorry for Luke... He was a criminal who made the decision to terrorize people and steal money instead of working hard (like the minorities).
You kidding?
Romina, a minority, gets knocked up...doesn't tell the biological father about it. When he finds out and looks to take some part in HIS CHILDS life...she closes him out. Then later she's banging him and Kofi, which ultimately leads to the altercation between the two.
And Kofi, rude as hell and holds a grudge against a guy for what...not taking care of the son he didn't know existed? What a dbag! "I was there when you were born." Yea, because your mother is a lying whore.
Good people? Pfft.
Any species this stupid deserves its little free fall down the food chain.
IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOU THINK...
women that are shady like that deserve all the drama that follows after.
spectre can
suck it.
I was going to say you can't be serious. But, I guess you are. Romina had every right to keep Jason's identity a secret because Luke was NEVER THERE!
And Kofi was just a father looking out for his child. And, yes, Jason was his, although not biologically. And Kofi wasn't rude, he was just protecting his son.
"Do you even remember what you came here to find?"
And Kofi, rude as hell and holds a grudge against a guy for what...not taking care of the son he didn't know existed? What a dbag!
Well, that's unfortunate for you. Like the other poster said, it's people like you who ruin movies.
Guess having the only major black character being a decent father and not a criminal blew your mind.
That you saw THIS as the message indicates that you are obsessed with race and see a grand conspiracy everywhere.
It must really suck to be so full of hate.
He should go down a gallon of bleach
shareI have to agree, Im not racist, but the white bashing that is going on at the moment is out of control.
shareA white-bashing movie? You're all out of your damn minds, for goodness' sakes!
shareOh, jeez. Cry me a river. When you start being followed around in a store or pulled over by cops BECAUSE of your color? Then you can complain.
shareWhy do you suppose that is? Could it have something to do with crime statistics along with life experience? Nah, must be the color of your skin.
shareRay Liotta's character mentioned that the guy Avery shot was white and that was worth another 50 or something, How is that supposed to be interpreted if not as something racist?
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To Cooler56, either you're race obsessed, and/or a cop with an ax to grind because of the depiction of corrupt cops in the movie.
I didn't see any type of insidious racial message in the film. It depicts corrupt cops. So what? I got news for you, come to NY, its full of corrupt cops. My brother's ex-brother-in-law was a cop and he told my brother that after 9-11, cops made out like bandits stealing gold and jewelry and other valuables from victims that died after the terrorist attack. You don't think what went out in that movie, doesn't happen in real life? Watch the movie "Serpico" based on real life events.
As for the two "minority characters" in the movie, I didn't see them as glorified in anyway. Romina is a loser. She's a waitress that has a one-night stand with a tattooed, uneducated thug and has an out-of-wedlock baby that matures into a troubled teenager who has run-in's with the law. As for her black boyfriend, we don't see that much of him to know what he's really like. Not enough character development. He's just a filler in the movie.
Basically, everybody is screwed up in that film. That said, I feel sorry for Luke. You can tell that he's had a hard life, but deep down inside he has a good heart. I, also, felt sorry for Romina and her son. They're losers and they are victims. The setting of the movie, dark, depressed upstate NY, highlights the despair of the characters.
That said, Avery comes across as decent and ethical. He feels sorrow for killing Luke, turns in the corrupt cops and works behind the scenes to help Luke's son.
"Avery comes across as decent and ethical"... dude... i'm not so sure about that...
share"Avery comes across as decent and ethical"... dude... i'm not so sure about that...
Well, he's certainly a far cry from those corrupt cops that take him [without him knowing] to Romina's house where they shake her down and extort money from her. In fact, he's racked with guilt and tries to return the money that they take from under her baby's mattress. He also turns in the corrupt cops. You might say that he did so out of ambition, because he wants to be a DA, but he nevertheless does turn them in and that's the right thing to do. That's the moral and ethical thing to do.
I saw Avery as an ambitious man, but nevertheless a man that is racked with guilt, especially about killing Luke. He's a complicated man and he's ambitious, but he's not heartless or a sleaze ball like his fellow cops. He could have had Luke's son arrested after he assaults his own son, points a gun at him and steals his wallet, but he doesn't. He feels that he owes Romina and her son something for killing Luke. To me, he's a flawed, but decent guy.
man i completely agree with all that. the main thing i was referring to though was the way he got the DA job and essentially his career. kinda cheap and a bit seedy, basically a bribe. but in turn he was turning in actual criminal cops, so it's a bit double edged. and then the whole killing luke when he hadn't drawn on him. it was out of panic, but he lied about it.
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Well then you need to seek help, I watched Menace to Society yesterday, guess what message I got from that movie if I was thinking like you.
What is it with black people and their race obsession!? Jealousy??