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More relatable if he wasnt surrounded by beautiful women?


I mean cmon. A dream ex girlfriend. Supermodel dates 15 years his junior who instantly want to both have sex and get serious. Even his best pal is a 10.

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it's just the nature of cinema, to have physically attractive characters

whats interesting is he fell in love with a mind, not a body

'Mr Nobody' also had that issue, but I dont think it effected it negatively

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I'm pretty sure you're surrounded by a lot of women who could be considered pretty in real life too.

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"Surrounded by" as in they pass me in the street and don't even glance up, yes.

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So, the problem is you.

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Not really. The vast majority of men aren't babe magnets. Especially men in their 40s who look like Joaquin Phoenix.

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Which is subjective. Either the women you're encountering are evil or you're projecting in this thread.

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Looks are only subjective to an extent. All the women in this movie are objectively very attractive. Phoenix, objectively, isn't. Not sure what I'm supposed to be projecting.

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He doesn't notice other women because he is still in love with his wife.
He is heartbroken and turned inward. It makes sense that he isn't ready for a relationship while he is still suffering through the end of his marriage.


"a malcontent who knows how to spell"


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I think it only adds to his loneliness and inability to connect with people.

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yea totally true.

If he was surrounded by fat ulgy trolls or just a loner.

That also downs it a bit and I hate how movies always make it seem like we're all surrounded by high end babes.

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I think you're only looking at the physical aspect. Theodore wants a "purposeful" connection, something with more than a sexual component, such as he had with his ex-wife. In the somewhat dystopian world he occupies, nearly everyone keeps to themselves and stay inside themselves. Real communication between people seems cropped and sanitized. Theodore struggles to find meaning in all this, despite his talent for writing heartfelt letters that speak to the soul. He wants more than what's all around him. Sure he's got typical male attitudes and almost has sex with his date. That moment of realization that they're drunk and the starkness of the mood change in that scene with Wilde was jarring. She wants more but he's not what she's looking for and he wants more, yet she's not what he's wanting either.

Samantha is that sudden constant, that interactive one who sees him and talks to him when he's away from that world at home and then sometimes outside in that world. She knows his hopes, his dreams, his struggles, his faults and his gifts.

This movie came across to me as a bitter-sweet romantic story that does have a strangely pleasing end. It's a rare, very thoughtful and introspective movie that I believe is a looking glass into our very near future.

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