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So everyone just stood there while Maureen bled to death?


After she got shot not once did someone say "call 911!" or "get a doctor!" or anything. Jake went over to her and just started talking to her, didn't try to rush her to the ER or call 911 or anything he just sat there with her until she died. I mean she wasn't shot in the chest, it looked to be on the side of her stomach, i mean surely there was time to get her to an ER or something. No one even tried to help her.

Its like as soon as everyone saw she was shot they was just like "Whelp shes dead lets all stand here and listen to their heartfelt goodbye".

Thats what i love about these high school girls, i get older they stay the same age.

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I thought about the same thing at this scene. Not even a doctor showed up.

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Agreed.

There would have been a doctor on the scene, charity event or not and also one or two in the audience.

Somebody has to show, even an off duty nurse or paramedic.




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Average response time is slow as *beep*, I thought it was obvious someone had already called 911.

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Someone shouted to "get help" - I took this to mean that the help would be from a doctor within the big hotel.

And as far as being shot in the side of the stomach; when a round penetrates, it can move in loads of different directions causing massive internal damage. Hope stated that he didn't know what to do, so just holding her without putting pressure on the wound in his panicked state isn't exactly unbelievable.

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I think the scene was quite realistic in the way it shellshocked everyone present at first. Then in the final wide shot you can see folks on their cell phones, obviously calling 911 and the paramedics.






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yes it's a lesson in how not to act, yelling and screaming to raise the patients blood pressure - typical films - they often show trained personnel simply panicking

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What trained personnel were on the scene in this movie? I'm sure those guys could have prepped her to bob and weave and slip the jab but saving a life is most likely incredibly far outside of their wheelhouse. People die like this all the time.

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You need to rewatch the scene. I think a lot of people didn't quite grasp what was happening and are hating on it. It's one of the few parts of the movie I thought were done well, especially showing realistic response times - as much as you can in a movie - of paramedics. They don't just hover around everyone waiting for *beep* to go down, there's no spidey sense. They take time to reach a destination when called, and that was a breath of fresh air when most movies show police and paramedics showing up within a few moments of an incident.

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True, the EMT are usually 10 minutes away, she died after 3 or 4 minutes. Apart from applying pressure to the wound it is unlikely a doctor or nurse who happened to be in the lobby could have done much. Granted some people can survive being shot several times but a bullet into the torso hitting just the wrong internal organ...

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that annoyed me to no end. they yelled for help but it didn't seem like anyone actually did anything,

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She was shot by a .45. That gun was designed to deliver a large, low velocity killing round from close range. The old saying is that "to kill a man with a .22, hit him in the head, to kill a man with a .45 hit anything within 6 feet of him." The spleen is located in the vicinity of the point of penetration, as is the stomach and kidney; along with a bunch of large blood vessels. With a .45, you get shot, go into shock, heart stops, and you are gone. The .45 was designed to stop the Moros (Phillipino Muslims) who would not go down with smaller caliber round due to their use of drugs and high morale. This fight came at the end of a 400 year long jihad by the Moros against the Japanese and Spanish. About 125,000 US soldiers fought, about 4000 were killed. Anyway, the gun is pretty lethal; the round rarely goes through, it almost always ricochets within the body and does immense damage. You can find out more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1911_pistol

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Getting shot in the stomach is kind of a big deal. Let's not act like its like getting shot in the arm or leg. Your stomach houses your damn liver, kidneys, spleen, intenstines and lower part of your lungs. Plenty of stuff in your stomach doesn't react well to bullets ripping through them. Other than getting shot in the damn head or chest the stomach is by far the third worst place you can take a bullet.

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