Torture Scenes are Too Disturbing - Zero Dark Thirty (2013) Discussion

[–] EricSharp79 9 years ago

You know what I found graphic and disturbing? Hijacking planes and flying them into shy scrapers. So they had to suffer through a little water being poured over their face, loud music and their own piss and *beep* over it!

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[–] I_Luv_Apple 9 years ago

Two wrongs do not a right make.

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[–] dubyahsrobotminion 9 years ago

So what do you think would have been a proper response? Like a lot of people that spout on about this issue, you don't offer an alternative.

(Interrogative) In response to 9/11 should we:
A) do nothing, isolate ourselves and acquit all the axe murderers
B) just kill them all indiscriminately without any attempt to incorporate HUMINT(Human Intelligence)
C) incorporate HUMINT just ask them all nicely, no interrogations just friendly conversations
D)None of the above

You're taking a dump and they call GQ do you pinch it off or finish your business?

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[–] DariusStrain 9 years ago

Can you prove that using C) wouldn't work? At least better then using torture did? Which you btw tried and can now look back on, as for example Ali Soufani, the former FBI agent did in his book Black Banners.

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[–] dubyahsrobotminion 9 years ago

C) doesn't work period. That would be like saying to my 4 year old, "Hey if I let you gulp down this 2 liter of Mountain Dew will you go to sleep for daddy?"

What Ali Soufani is talking about is 'turning' someone. And futhermore he was talking of experience with turning lightweight wannabes. That is possible with a nare few and never possible with true believer extremists. Unfortunately the true believer extremists are the ones that were in deeper, were trusted and have all the good information.

As for 'torture' hmm if you wanna call it that go right ahead. We could do much worse to them. And I wouldnt bat an eyelash, not for people that want to commit genocide.

You're taking a dump and they call GQ do you pinch it off or finish your business?

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[–] nTii 8 years ago

It's about time someone hit back.

So you're saying those 3000 innocent people who died that day had it coming?

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[–] PropaneGame 8 years ago

what about half a million iraq civilians

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[–] Vulcans_Rule 8 years ago

Not a valid counter-argument, unless you believe events of 2001 were motivated by those of 2003.

 Live long and prosper.

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[–] dubyahsrobotminion 9 years ago

So says the person with a screen name taken from an Axe Murderer! Is this an intentional irony?

You're taking a dump and they call GQ do you pinch it off or finish your business?

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[–] the_bigkahuna 9 years ago

Torture is disturbing, even if you feel it's justified. I'm glad it was depicted this way in instead of some watered down pg-13 bs. Our country has done some messed up stuff in the name of safety and security, I don't think it should be glossed over.

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[–] PlugInNewBorn 9 years ago

Is it bad that I found them to be erotic?

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[–] Meera-Khan 9 years ago

That was the point of it, to be graphic and disturbing.

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[–] Ithilfaen 9 years ago

Did they have to be so graphic and disturbing?

They had to, yes, because otherwise, some people might have complained the movie was glorifying torture... oh wait... didn't work.
So I guess they had to be graphic so that people didn't think they were justified in... oh wait, never mind.

Seriously though, yes they had to. They were not meant to justify torture. They were meant to show the impact they had on everyone in the room, including the "interrogators".

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

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[–] sanders_mike25 9 years ago

Disturbing is watching people jumping from the top floors of the Towers. Those bastards deserved more.

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[–] siargao 8 years ago

I rather enjoyed them really. Bit primitive of the swarthy chap to poo his pants though.

It's not as if they are difficult to avoid, just don't sign up with the murderous medieval death cult.

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