There would be no plausible way to retrieve the footage. The film we see, was allegedly culled down from many hours of footage. Did Anderson happen to collect *all* of that footage (among all of the the things he was dealing with) and bring it aboard the Soviet lander? Was the Soviet craft still intact after its collision with the Apollo CSM, or was debris scattered all over? (Most likely the latter.) How would NASA (or whomever) even be able to *locate* that footage in orbit around the moon?
It's a plot hole you could drive a planet through. They even screw up and mention that most of it was recorded on film. Oops! We're talking a lot of reels of film that had to be retrieved from both the Moon's surface and a spaceship that collided with another. Lord of the Rings was closer to being a documentary or docudrama. This was lazy writing and filmmaking and boring as hell to boot. Tedious slow and dull. The only saving grace was it only cost 5 mill so it made money. It was hit and run marketing. First weekend good numbers and the second week the sound of crickets in the theaters. Word of mouth can kill a film like this one. My god while I'm writing this the credit crawl is still going on. It's one of the slowest I've ever seen. We're talking three actors and a couple of sets. How long can you drag the bloody credits out!!!! Mother of god they just got to the CG effects and it's still going! They may have the longest credits for a 5 mill film in history! I've lost count of the number of CG companies! Ah finally the lame music crawl. I swear the credits are longer than the movie and you could have shot it in some one's backyard! Hey there's bonus material! What is it the uncut credits that run three hours? Don't waste your time. This should have been a half hour Twilight Zone episode not a theatrical feature.
The footage was retrived under the secret STS-NX01 mission, where they went back to the moon in 1997 with the shuttle Columbia to find out what happened to the crew of Apollo 18.
There was no cancelled flight because of equipment failure that year (STS-83), they did in fact launch the Columbia in the darkness of the night. No one in a 150 miles radius noticed it, because they used knock out gas to make every one sleep very deeply.
The smart thing about these shuttles, they all look a like, so no one noticed in the morning how they had wrote the name Columbia on the Atlantis and like that convinced every one that the Atlantis was the Columbia.
Man, what a NASA conspiracy movie that would make :-)
I think the problem the film makers had with this movie is they forgot to hire a script and continuity supervisor. They lost track, even during editing, of the premise that all those hours of footage, most of which was on film, was either left on the moon or destroyed when the command and lunar modules collided.
I was tempted many times to fast forward to the end just to see how the footage made it's way back to earth and how it was found but they left that issue unresolved.
Wasn't most of the film "live feed" sent to Earth? The footage in the movie captured by the "handheld" doesn't nesenserry have to be a lot of film. The movie lastet only 60 min (minus home footage and credits).
We "see" the ships crash, but we don't know what happened to the ships, if they were destroyed or if the men died. We only see a black screen.
Just because it isn't explained doesn't mean it's a plothole.
There was a reference to Houston "seeing something" from the cameras, so I think you're right. A lot of it was fed back to Earth live and possibly only the excursions away from the lander required the handheld cameras with film.
Exactly. Those of us alive at the time watch the Moon landings in real time so in the movie NASA is likewise watching the whole thing unfold...they knew from the Russian mission or information previous missions that some rocks are really shells of the moon creatures. Why else send Apollo 18 to the same place as the Russian LK? The Westinghouse motion cameras were meant to study the creatures. Perhaps though NASA didn't intended to abandon the astronauts.
The intercutting of movie with actual Apollo landing footage is well done. It has that gritty authentic look.
That would account for SOME of the footage like the stuff shot from the rover and the corners of the LM. But at other points the footage has signs of damage and scratches clearly showing that that stuff was shot on film.
But once we find out the true motive for the trip, it seems to me that question was answered.
What I got is that Houston wanted them to go there to get killed by the aliens. In fact, getting killed by the aliens was step two of a two-part mission, with part one being to set up the cameras so that they could be *watched* being killed by the aliens! That being the case, it stands to reason the footage would've needed to be transmitted back.
I would've assumed that the handheld cameras wouldn't have been transmitting. But since documenting the whole thing was so important, and NASA knew the footage would not be physically recovered (because they were not planning on bringing the men home), they may have decided it was worth it to have even the handheld cameras transmitted back to earth.
The thing about found footage movies is that there are always unanswered questions which can be a good or bad thing. If you buy into the film then you suspend your disbelief and assume they got explained off camera or you make up your own explanation, if you don't get sucked in then you pick up on all these little omissions and shout about it on IMDb.
For me this film had very few problems. There must be some capability for live broadcasting back to Earth as the moon landing was shown live on TV so a good portion of the footage could have been sent back that way. The higher quality color footage was all filmed on the handheld cams, the film cartridges from which we see being loaded in to a bag to be taken aboard the Russian module. The module then crashes into the orbiter but this does not mean that it exploded or crashed. Perhaps both men survived and took the footage home, perhaps they were both killed but the ships stayed in a stable orbit long enough for a recovery mission to arrive, perhaps the ships crashed and the film was recovered by a robotic rover on some later secret mission.
The aliens as well are no problem. Maybe they have been hibernating till now and were only woken by the weird signals that the transmitters were giving out, maybe they are not alien at all and were brought there by the russians, maybe they are aliens and it makes no sense to question them because of exactly that reason.
This film actually addressed my usual major problem with found footage movies which is always the questions "Why do they keep filming?" and "How are their batteries lasting so long?". Both of these are reasonably explained by the scientific nature of the mission in Apollo 18. People seem to ripping holes in this film but I would say it is the best found footage film I have seen. It has good characters, doesn't make you seasick and traded in the usual screaming and running about aimlessly for real tension and a creepy atmosphere throughout. It may be slower burning than many of its genre mates but I personally think that is a good thing.
If I wanted to rant about a really terrible found footage movie I would go over to the Blair Witch Project forum but for now I'm happy to stay here and stand up for this one.
Well said. I especially agree about the "Why do they keep filming?" question. This movie actually made sense, since they were trying to document everything initially for the scientific record; and once they realized they had been duped, they were documenting to expose the corruption of the DOD.
I laughed out loud over the Blair Witch comment. I didn't like that movie at all, but I liked this one quite a bit.
It's true that "Apollo 18" takes more time to build and establish mood than most modern "horror" films, but this is actually the film's strength. Unfortunately, many people today have very short attention spans. I think of this movie more in line with films like "Nosferatu," "The Haunting" (the original), or "Repulsion"--all great and creepy films, but they use subtlety, allowing your imagination to build suspense, and save the big shocks for key moments in the story, rather than bombarding you with special effects and cheap thrills. This may not be everyone's cup of tea, but this film does a good job with what it attempts to do.
I don't even think these movies HAVE to explain how the footage was found - we're seeing it as an omniscient third-party, just like we are for all movies.
However, it's clear from the commentary and the prologue that "Apollo 18" was indeed meant to be found and recovered footage, probably uploaded by one of the astronauts' sons.
I hate when people don't pay attention to the movie. They had a whole scene of him packing up the film reels and specifically saying "they have to come back for us, they will want this film" or something along those lines. It's extremely plausible for a later mission to have recovered the film from the damaged craft.
i agree, yes there are potential plot holes, but there are plenty in most films. some are downright insulting to the audience. I found this one fairly well done. Most of the plot points you COULD find explanations for. To the people complaining about the film being slow, go watch a michael bay or jj abrams movie. Those take action to such an absurd extreme that I hate watching them. I like a film that is somewhat minimalist and uses the story to tell the movie, not just huge explosions and actions that are too over the top.
Excellent post ClingwrapKiller. I agree with all you wrote. I too noticed the "plot hole" at the end. But after some quick thinking I just assumed since the astronauts were careful about packing it up, that the film survived, and it was later recovered. I even joked it was Apollo 19 that retrieved the footage. So, just because the filmmakers didn't spell every last thing out, doesn't mean there's a major plot hole. You just have to do some of your own thinking.
I would say it is the best found footage film I have seen. It has good characters, doesn't make you seasick and traded in the usual screaming and running about aimlessly for real tension and a creepy atmosphere throughout. It may be slower burning than many of its genre mates but I personally think that is a good thing.